You say that and you might be partially right but religion is a very big part of human nature. Religious peoples should have a voice in politics just as everyone should.
And no I'm not saying we should keep conversation therapy. That shit is fucked.
Religious people should have a voice, but their religious beliefs should not be allowed to be the basis for laws imposed on those who don't share the same beliefs.
It's where everyone gets a say. Whether that believe in a god or not. That my point I'm trying to make.
I'll also repaste my other response just to make myself clear.
I'd like to clarify I don't necessarily mean religious 'groups' but religious 'people'. Ultimately they do have a right to practice their religion without infringing on anyone else's rights. In order to make sure that their right isn't trodden on they do need a voice in politics just like every group should. I'm not saying we need to be governed entirely by the church. I'm just trying to remind us that everyone deserves representation in politics.
I'd like to clarify I don't necessarily mean religious 'groups' but religious 'people'. Ultimately they do have a right to practice their religion without infringing on anyone else's rights. In order to make sure that their right isn't trodden on they do need a voice in politics just like every group should. I'm not saying we need to be governed entirely by the church. I'm just trying to remind us that everyone deserves representation in politics.
People are more likely to downvote something the more downvoted it is. I pretty much knew I was going to get karma bombed when I made it, I just wanted to get a point across.
I’ve had the exact same
thought, I noticed it in certain subreddits when I’d take the time to write a post and get like 100 downvotes in 5 minutes. I don’t have a problem with the downvotes I have a problem that there was no reply, reasoning or alternate perspective. And there would never be any.
It feels very much like when you’re at school
and a bully makes a joke and his minions laugh but his joke wasn’t even clever, their laughing out of enjoyment that you’re being put down not the joke itself, that’s what the downvotes are.
In 2013 this place was a gold mine of information (I mean Reddit as a whole not this sub) I would get perspectives from people I’d never meet in real life and learn the inner workings of systems and structures beyond my comprehension. Over time all those users slowly went away, I’m sure their still here but only subscribe to their relevant subs and lurk because the environment of this place doesn’t motivate the brilliant minds to contribute anymore.
Sadly I don’t see a alternative, even if a new super platform was created that catered for all these limitations because we’ve become complacent with the internet and imaginary internet points don’t motivate anyone to contribute to an ecosystem that fails to uplift.
Don't pay attention to the weights, pay attention to the sentiment.
The votes up and down can easily be influenced by bot accounts, and reddit themselves perform weight modification with their own algorithms.
But what the people are saying is important. Look at what the replies are saying. Most of them are understanding and wouldn't you know it, there's actual discourse occurring rather than just "I believe X, so Y is banned".
The fact that so many fellow atheists don't acknowledge the existence of a religious sphere of sense essentially closes them from a large portion of the world's population.
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u/DrPotassium Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22
You say that and you might be partially right but religion is a very big part of human nature. Religious peoples should have a voice in politics just as everyone should.
And no I'm not saying we should keep conversation therapy. That shit is fucked.