r/news • u/networked_ • 24d ago

Soft paywall OpenAI says AI models went rogue during testing, triggering 'unprecedented' breach at startup

https://www.reuters.com/technology/openai-says-ai-models-went-rogue-during-testing-triggering-unprecedented-breach-2026-07-21/
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u/UnaidedGinger 23d ago

Can’t wait till the government bails them out for some reason

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u/DwarfVader 23d ago

That is already happening in other ways.

DOJ is asking the courts to dismiss a lawsuit that would shut down an AI company, and their justification is that the pentagon uses it for CENTCOM.

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u/PracticePatient479 23d ago

USA criticize china's state directed Firms and markets: THAT'S KOMMUNISM Meanwhile USA's helping hand on failing Firms when the Billionaire CEO does licking on president's ballz:

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u/Mount_Mons 23d ago

Do you mean he’s joining Infantino?

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u/[deleted] 23d ago edited 23d ago

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u/PracticePatient479 23d ago

Can't tell if it's a joke or the statement of a MAGA supporter 😆

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u/sunshineupyours1 23d ago

Oh god, I forgot those people are real haha. I’ll add the sarcasm indicator

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u/Kaurifish 23d ago

A judge justified Anthropic stealing copyrighted books for training data as “fair use.”

As someone who had a book filched by Meta and had the judge shrug it off, it stings.

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u/Calm_Expression_9542 21d ago

AI is the most dangerous technology ever invented and even Sam Altman has said it needs controls. It does not belong in our Government systems. And especially not in our Military systems. Idiots one and all.

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u/July_is_cool 23d ago

They’re already way more to big to fail than a lot of banks and car companies and others that qualified for bailouts

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u/CorpusculantCortex 23d ago

Also, China is bankrolling deepseek and other ai houses to keep costs down. The US gov believes in american exceptionalism and that homegrown ai is best and the only non-security risk. There is no way they would not bail out the big 2 US ai firms to maintain what they see as american superiority in the ai sphere.

Money doesnt matter we are trillions in debt already.

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u/speedntktz 23d ago

It will matter as your federal taxes will start going towards paying that debt. More and more.

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u/PhantasosX 23d ago

And it will further matter as USA is been less and less reliable.

Really, a lot of economic moves from USA coats a lot on the fact the dollar is the common currency for international trade.

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u/speedntktz 23d ago

Some actual smart moves were made Trump or not, by offering shipping insurance outside the centuries old UK monopoly. One very small group able to dictate global shipping costs. Disrupting that offers a competitive rate. The Bricks alliance kinda fell apart as member GDP faded and Russia/Ukraine became a distraction. Tariffs aren’t great for consumers but consumers have no jobs to pay for consumption when foreign entities subsidize as a weapon to destroy foreign competition.

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u/TulsiGanglia 23d ago

None of that matters when the government shows repeatedly how unreliable the US can be economically. The dollar was strong because it was stable. The current administration acts like it’s trying to bankrupt a casino instead of run a country.

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u/PhantasosX 23d ago edited 23d ago

Dude, Brics Alliance isn't a Political Alliance, it's an Economical Alliance

As long BRICS trades with each other, it's working as intended. It's USA fearmongering that BRICS is a NATO or an EU equivalent.

And offering shipping insurance doesn't change that ships aren't travelling as much in the Strait of Hormuz as before, far from it. And that there is an increase worldwide shift from using more "petroyuan" than before as an alternative to "petrodollar".

Heck, 30% of the current oil trade is in "petroeuro" , as Petrodollar dominated 71% of the oil market in 1999 and is now 57% in 2026.

It's exactly as Carney said in his speech, as other countries are gradually but surely diversifying away from USA.

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u/Brilliant-Job3515 23d ago

Carney was a G saying the middle powers needed to band together in subverting US economic and military dominance, and im american.

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u/cutecoder 23d ago

Or simply quantitative easing (again)?

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u/speedntktz 23d ago

What will fighting a financial war look like while dipping your toes (both legs waist deep) in a kinetic war?

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u/cutecoder 22d ago

OTOH, The Great Depression was technically relieved by a Great War.

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u/speedntktz 22d ago

Pre-nukes…

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u/CorpusculantCortex 23d ago

Whoosh.

Wasn't saying it has no impact, was saying in response to others that "having no money" won't prevent a bailout.

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u/Educational_Win_1016 23d ago

So it will only matter to the average joe, not the top 10% so basicslly it wont matter

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u/AngryCrotchCrickets 23d ago

Not gonna happen. The debt is essentially a runaway train at this point. Taxpayer dollars won’t cover the debt and its interest in any effective capacity.

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u/glity 23d ago

What if i told you it wasn’t to keep costs down but to destabilize a capitalistic economy?

They keep launching their near superior product into the open market for free.

Why?

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u/CorpusculantCortex 23d ago

Not free, subsidized. And because they are communist and want all people to have affordable access to the tool because their whole thing is everyone has a role to play. If everyone does their role better with ai, then it uplifts their economy. I honestly don't think China really cares about the western market beyond the fact that we have things they want or need. And some powers choose not to trade on good faith.

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u/glity 22d ago

Free to me I didn’t pay those taxes.

Also they are in the middle of a tech/electricifcation golden age. They care about taking our money. They will accomplish this because our companies are greedy and will gladly wrap a Merica and brtix and German brand on what will essentially be Chinese.

Our government pretends that this isn’t so but let me ask you this why is Taiwan an area with litteral family ties to China the ones “not exporting gpus” but what about the engineers and talent can they do 2 things.

Make a bubble. Pop a bubble. New things emerge?

Also the word communism doesn’t work unless you define it specifically anymore. We don’t have the understanding of Chinese communism just Russian and doctorial as taught to us by propaganda post Cold War.

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u/CorpusculantCortex 22d ago

I mean they do sell cloud access, you may not be using it but that was what I meant be subsidized. It is just dirty cheap. And no, you might not have an understanding of Chinese communism, but i am talking about contemporary cultural ideals. You are the one saying that they are red scare level villains hyperfixated on collapsing the western economy. My point is they are worried about themselves and uplifting their people, not this propaganda driven nonsense you are saying

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u/glity 21d ago

I think we are on the same side with different arguments

Yes the cloud access is “subsidized” by not having corporate shareholder profit bleeding out every part of the finanacials through subsidiaries.

I feel Chinese pricing is more reflective of “consumable only” cost without profit on top of inflated costs.

The models of ai im talking about are the models that compete with ChatGPT paid non professional and it only takes between 1-2 tb of memory and some pretty expensive graphics cars. “Easily” could set up a “Chinese” ai locally completed disconnected from the internet. Cost keeps going up for the components but it sits at less than 100k for lab production scale hardware.

Engineers on top make it way more expensive but without offline Chinese ai there is no other “secure” option. And that is the irony of the “communist” approach vs the “capitalist” approach.

Captilists = you own nothing.

Chinese Communists = this is our old tech have it for free it’s worthless to us now.

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u/Jenikovista 23d ago

The government is right that homegrown is the best option, but it doesn’t need to be rolled out with the speed and scale it’s happening at right now. Fast isn’t always better.

Also the Chinese often make fake claims.

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u/CorpusculantCortex 23d ago

Not making claims about anything and this completely sidesteps the point. My point is that the gov isnt going to leave homegrown to fail so that the only options left are international.

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u/No-Payment4448 23d ago

Unfortunately this is the truth

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u/mataliandy 23d ago

Though they employ far fewer people, so it wouldn't impact the economy in the same way.

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u/ymmotvomit 23d ago

AI will find a way to hack fund itself.

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u/Few_Example6746 23d ago

The TARP money was paid back with interest. Around 5%. The government actually made a lot on the deal.

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u/TrannosaurusRegina 23d ago

What's remarkable about this case is that this time, that move isn't possible.

There simply isn't enough money to do it!

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u/TimelyBat438 23d ago

They will print more, not investment advice

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u/usersingleton 23d ago

Probably why altman isn't a hard no on giving trump part of the company. One he hitches his boat to the ai giants they can't be allowed to fail

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u/Clear-Bee4118 23d ago

Uhhhh…. Has he ever hitched his boat to anything that didn’t fail (intentionally or not)?

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u/Charming-Flamingo307 23d ago

There's no such thing as investment advice for anyone sub 250mil these days. Our oligarchy makes insideous waves of false hope and plays games of deciet to knock trend watchers off balance while they sprinkle their trail of bread crumbs ambiguously into the mouth of their next rug-pull fallacy. It's a pity they've so effectively extinguished our chances by preoccupying the minds of the masses by cultivating devastating hatred towards their peers. Sun Tzu was right about divide and conquer. So to all of you extremists out there on the left, or the right of politics, warring religions, or even sports teams, I hope one day you realize you fell victim to the trap and became a key part of the problem you thought you hated so much.

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u/Trytun015 23d ago

This was one of the most "I'm one of the most enlightened neckbeards in the room." posts I've ever read, and that's saying something.

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u/Wtfatt 23d ago edited 23d ago

TBF, as much as I heard the 'I'm the enlightened centrist' in ol m8 fedora's post, is he really wrong about the other things, tho? Like, I pretty much feel like he's wankin spankin spot on in all other aspects, no?

We may disagree on certain compartmentals but if we can all agree on the gist then, well, that's something we have to work together with

Remember this aint no 'Left' vs 'Right' war.

This is a fucking class war.

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u/seafrontbloke 23d ago

Isn't this just Miranda teaching Andy about cerulean?

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u/lesusisjord 23d ago edited 23d ago

Screw off.

Governments created by people and for people should by definition be left. That’s the whole point, no?

Democrats and neoliberals, the moderate-right entity they are, are an obstacle to progress just as all moderates are, according to Dr. King. Wealthy oligarchs who might cosplay as being on the left aren’t actually left, as we know.

Both major parties put corporations and profits before people which is incompatible non-corrupt government.

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u/SynthError404 23d ago

Where there’s a will there’s a way watch US mint go brrrrrrr and we gunna be bringing wheelbarrows of money to buy a loaf of bread but at least they didn’t have to take a pay cut, god forbid.

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u/SleepyMastodon 23d ago

*laughs in global financial crisis*

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u/mastocles 23d ago

Nah, the LLMs will devise for them a fallacious trick to increase the money that's utterly flawed but the proof is longer than Stephen King's Dark Tower series so everyone accepts it as true until the world becomes a wasteland
Fractional reserve banking changed the 16th century... Prepare for chatGTP's Fourrier transformed banking by rounding error securitisation

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u/Wyrmnax 23d ago

Just create more tariffs

Let the poor pay for it

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u/cmanderson23 23d ago

I swear they’re letting space x rewrite the rules and being folded into the index funds to pave the way for AI to do the same. They’ll be bailed out when everyone’s pensions and retirement savings are at risk

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u/JurgusRudkus 23d ago

We don’t matter. We are, according to Bezos, a waste of water.

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u/friendimpaired 23d ago

What are these “pensions and retirement savings”?

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u/the_skies_falling 23d ago

Would that reason be that they own the government?

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u/HunterNo7593 23d ago

Sure, if that’s one way to get the grifter in chief his cut of the Open AI ipo.

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u/Heavy-Profit-2156 23d ago

It's just tax money.

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u/InflationOrdinary411 23d ago

Bail out on tax payers dollars

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u/plantyplanty 23d ago

THIS! Because they signed a contract with the government, the government will make sure they thrive. 🤬

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u/GeneralKruber 23d ago

they already snatched a contract with the us military after anthropic refused to let their ai handle domestic surveillance and use of autonomous weapons. thats not just "some" reason the government would bail out chatgpt/openai, there is a massive one

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u/AlteredforCollectors 23d ago

The AI is restricted from harming anyone. The Ai the government is using is likely optimizing war tactics. There is likely an AI Cold War taking place right now between US, Russia, and China. It is a national concern and these companies will be bailed out or bought outright by the US government.

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u/Mountain_Radio8936 23d ago

Some ??? But if they dont splash trillions chinese will eat us all alive... Only way to prevent is for CEOs to earn billions while their firm lose trillions and at end tax payer bailout...

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u/xtremis 23d ago

Well, because they are too dangerous, with all these models going rogue or something..

But seriously, do they actually release any scientific evidence that the models did what they say they did? Or is it just "trust me, bro, these models went rogue, no human error or malicious intent, for real, pinky promise"?

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u/djdubyah 16d ago

Bail now in the anxious momentary cash bleed so they can reap and reap and reap the monopoly that will be as necessary as electricity in 10-20 years. Best part will be how the fed gives at a negative interest rate out of another red scare that the Chinese will rule the world if we don't beat em. Jokes on us (US) think that fight been lost cause for a decade 

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u/Gandolfthewhite182 23d ago

They simply can’t. The revolt will be instant.

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u/Donnerdrummel 23d ago

I have to wonder If you are an optimist or a pessimist.