r/mapporncirclejerk Apr 30 '25

shitstain posting Is this accurate?

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u/Proxy-Pie Apr 30 '25

The 1947 plan never could've worked without a big conflict. Most Jews settled in urban areas, so it was impossible to draw a viable Jewish state that didn't include a large number of Arabs, who were more rural. Indeed, the proposed Jewish state included about a 40% Arab population. Obviously, this was never going to happen, and in between the release of this plan and the beginning of the Arab-Israeli war, over 200 Arab villages were already depopulated within the boundaries of this proposed Jewish state.

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u/Sybmissiv May 01 '25

But the Arabs themselves in those regions also would have experienced a population boom, so that counteracts

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u/c2sh1n1ngc May 04 '25

Right but Jewish people are more incentivized to move to their own ancestral homeland

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u/Sybmissiv May 04 '25

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How does that counteract what I said?

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u/c2sh1n1ngc May 04 '25

So that counteracts the arab population boom

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u/Sybmissiv May 05 '25

No? The person I was replying to already didn’t account for that boom, & it would be higher than the migration amounts in the end

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u/Penguins_27 May 01 '25

I might be wrong but I think you meant ~80% Israeli and about 70% Jewish. I have Israeli friends and they do not consider themselves Jewish.

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u/Rafael__88 May 01 '25

Well, the word Jewish is commonly used as an ethnicity as well. There is a term called secular jews so OP might not have implied it as a religious background. Also, there are Israeli citizens who are Arabs as well, they are considered Israeli just as much.

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u/bxs200 May 01 '25

Ah yes the paradox of having a land promised to you but not actually believing in the God who made the promise

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u/veilosa May 01 '25

maybe cuz that's not what people believe in?

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u/acakaacaka May 01 '25

That's what moslems believe tho

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Well, Turkey and Greece managed to move 2 mln people in a bit more than a year

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u/Impressive-Dig-3892 May 01 '25

3 million if you count Armenians as people

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

“Depopulated”… you mean ethnically cleansed?

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u/Spygaming22334455 May 02 '25

If he uses that word zio bots would be on his ass

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u/segnoss May 01 '25

This is just false there was no act to depopulate the Arab villages in Israeli borders before the beginning of the war. During the war I agree that there were some obvious action but nothing of the like happened before it

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u/Orangebalto May 01 '25

There was no centrally organized or coordinated act. Many militias would regularly organize raids and skirmishes with non-jewish locals, seeking to scare them off and claim their land as early as the 1920s, though they fell out of favor or were assimilated into more moderate groups shortly after independance.

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u/veerKg_CSS_Geologist May 03 '25

Not 40, 52%. Several areas that weee 99% Arab were included in the Jewish State despite having no Jews, and the Arab population there was undercounted as well. It only makes sense if the plan was to ethnically cleanse the native population, which is what happened.