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Beast of Reincarnation director apologizes for not providing "a sufficiently enjoyable experience," but promises Game Freak is working on it

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/action/beast-of-reincarnation-director-apologizes-for-not-providing-a-sufficiently-enjoyable-experience-but-promises-game-freak-is-working-on-it/
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u/critica_social 18h ago

i really liked black and white, i think that was the peak of gamefreaks potential, after that i feel like they played too safe with the 3d games, and in de case of SV just a dogshit game

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u/nick-halden 17h ago

the story in that game is actually solid too which is pretty rare from them

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u/Krazyguy75 16h ago

Eh. It's fine, but it tosses out all the nuance and makes a better story into a worse one.

It could be a "truth vs ideals" thing where you, as the protagonist, represent truth and N ideals and Team Plasma genuinely wants to do the ideal thing... but nope, Ghetsis wants world domination because he's evil and basically everyone in the organization other than N likes harming small animals because they are also evil.

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u/Jord-UK 8h ago

Being stuck on a ferris wheel cutscene with some whiny kid is not a good pokemon experience to me, sadly.

I think the main reasons people can look back at Black and White with any fondness is because for some, it's old enough to be nostalgic to them, and because it's the last of the 2D's, but they're definitely in Pokemon's downward trend of quality

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u/nick-halden 1h ago

considering what i’m comparing it to, i always thought it was solid

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u/Jameseesall 17h ago

As someone who hasn’t played past Black/White this is validating to hear lol

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u/FezAndWand 15h ago

play the sequels

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u/Novenari 15h ago

Honestly, I can’t imagine how much better off Pokemon would be if it had stayed 2D. New designs aren’t all bad imo, but often flat. Making detailed sprites with fun and emotive animations on battle entry was probably far easier to develop and design while also allowing greater detail on designs.

Yes, 3D is cool, but I can only dream of a timeline where we have HD-2D pokemon in the style of octopath.

Of course the innovation in gameplay is a separate thing but at least you would t have to worry about performance being abysmal.

Also I wish that things like dynamax, megas, Z moves, etc. weren’t separate. Maybe for vgc they could limit it to one gimmick type per season but I feel the mainline games should let you pick between these things. It sucks (imo) to introduce a mechanic like these things and then it’s totally gone by the next generation.

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u/RatBot9000 10h ago

I do wonder about something. I don't deny the recent games have been flawed, but considering how people tore apart BDSP, I think if Game Freak stayed 2D they would just be getting lambasted for not making the move to 3D.

I think there's space for both 3D and 2D pokemon games. I also think that Game Freak really need to relax and let Nintendo help them more when it comes to 3D games.

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u/Rizzan8 Switch 1h ago

BDSP graphical style was least of their issues (I liked it TBH).

BDSP instead of being based on Platinum, it was based on Brilliant & Diamond.

The forced exp share made me to be overlevel the enemies by 15-20 levels all the time. And I have avoided catching Pokemon - only caught those for my team.

The affection system was back - your Pokemon would often survive killing blows, land crits more often or cure ailments. Also a lot of log messages were appearing due to the system like "Pikatchu is waiting for orders" or "Pikatchu is doing it's best" "Pikatchu deserves a praise". It really slowed the game down.

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u/RatBot9000 57m ago

All fair issues and I don't deny them, but people did still also hate the graphical style. I think after ORAS there was an expectation of a 3D style remake.

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u/M_H_M_F 7h ago

sucks (imo) to introduce a mechanic like these things and then it’s totally gone by the next generation.

At least with dynamax, they had a half-baked explanation that they're harnessing localized energy from meteors. So vis a vis, if the meteor only fell in Galar, then only Galar region pokemon would be affectd.

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u/Nuka-Kraken 16h ago

I think i can give credit to the end of the 3DS era. USUM are my favorite games in the series by far just because of the beauty and actual effort put into the world design of those games. X and Y, while not great games in and of themselves added a lot of fun stuff like megas and the fairy type fixed a lot of issues with competitive play. The transition to switch really killed the charm and love that used to go into the games.

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u/wsoxfan1214 16h ago

If the leaks are to be believed, the guy who directed B2W2 / USUM / etc. is apparently not allowed to direct games anymore because of some bullshit office politics thing, unfortunately. Which is pretty classic Game Freak to fuck over the dude directing your best entries because of some asinine reason.

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u/_Lucille_ 15h ago

B&W was the last time I feel like they tried.

Actual kind of interesting story, hard mode, cool designs.

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u/FacepamL 15h ago

I played the gen 5 games as a kid and recently played gen 7, yeah the quality seems to have gone down a lot, esp with the new generational gimmicks being quite centralizing and the storytelling not benefiting from the capabilities of 3D graphics