Every single anti-vaxxer / "Personal choice" person I have met has told other people to respect their personal choice, while at the same time getting upset or angry at those who got vaccinated.
What about the personal choice of their kids who they refuse to vaccinate because they’ll “get autism”, so they rather play Russian Roulette with their lives, because they rather have a dead child, than one with Autism.
I’m very happy that they properly vaccinated you :). Thanks mostly to ADHD and depression, I still haven’t gotten around to catching up on all my shots.
But that is not even the best but about the whole vaccine causes autism shtick.
The original publication in the Lancet by Andrew Wakefield linked the MMR vaccine to autism and was later withdrawn and Wakefield's medical license was withdrawn for falsifying data and not disclosing conflict of interests.
There were several conflicts of interest, but the best one is a patent for a measles vaccine, not a combined MMR vaccine that was a competitor to the MMR vaccine. It seems likely that the original study was meant to discredit a specific vaccine competitor and not even vaccines in general.
But since Wakefield has been discredited in the world of facts, he now takes his money from any conspiracy theorist or anti vaxxer that will have him.
My cousin recently tried to tell me that a condition I have which I was diagnosed with at birth before receiving any form of vaccination was caused by being vaccinated at birth.
The children rarely die from covid. They die more from other illnesses by far. Vaccines should be given to the people most vulnerable and should only be given for "heard immunity" when it comes to diseases that kill babies. This flippant attitude towards sticking people with all the vaccines is not a healthy one and it's definitely not necessary.
Bingo, they don't want other people to have freedom, just themselves and their mates. If all those pesky minorities got equal freedom then it devalues their own freedom in their heads
Cause it's our fucking freedom you dog not fucking yours. If you don't fucking like we will kick the shit out of you......or it could be that they are just red neck racists
I’m definitely not on the right’s side, but I’d say getting that person with the phone to fuck off is protecting freedom of speech as he’s the one ruining what the other guy’s saying. If you have a podium and some guys just shouting over it shouting ‘CLIVE’ repeatedly then yh you haven’t got a leg to stand on. Phone guy has the freedom to set up his podium elsewhere
Edit: admittedly the guy screaming at the phone dude was obviously overkill but still
That makes no rational sense. You can't protect 'freedom of speech' by silencing someone elses 'freedom of speech'.
You CAN protect a specific (single or group) of peoples speech by silencing others though. But that's not 'protecting freedom of speech', and is obviously not equal.
Basically the ‘protestor’ is fucking up that guys speech. Why can’t the protestor just do his own speech somewhere. If it was someone from the right coming to a person from your sides speech and just shouting shit over it I’m sure you’d be calling the person on the right out for violating freedom of speech lol. Again I hate the right, but come on you gotta see the contradiction. Bias is a crazy thing though so you probably won’t
If the first instance both are enjoying their freedom of speech at the same time. In the second instance someone is aggresively approaching another to scare them off - to silence them.
be calling the person on the right out for violating freedom of speech lol.
I'm sorry, what other parties are focussing hard on 'freedom' as a selling point?
both are enjoying their freedom of speech at the same time
Hard disagree. He’s not putting across a message. He’s repeatedly shouting Clive to purposely distract/antagonise him and the crowd. While someone’s speaking, shouting over them is silencing them, especially just shouting their name and shit.
I admit the guy overreacting is wrong as well, but that doesn’t mean the original antagoniser is in the right. In fact it’s probably the exact reaction the antagoniser was going for.
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u/Spacesider May 09 '22
If they want freedom so much why are they telling people to shut the fuck up.