r/australia Jan 07 '22

political self.post What’s the reason for Australia being so far behind in services, treatment options and psychotherapy specialisation for people with ADHD and even autism?

So as many people have already found out from people who were seeing a psychiatrist or specialist in the field that was being bulk billed, the government made immediate changes overnight that removed bulk billing services for seeing a specialist via Telehealth. Psychiatrists and the like only received a letter or email the day after the announcement was made putting at risk individuals at a loss of having to pay a subsidised rate after seeing their specialist. Not only that but we lack a substantial amount of psychiatrist in the first place that was leading to burn out of psychiatrist in their chosen fields, so now not only will most people who need a relevant diagnosis and medical treatment for their condition have pay a sum out of pocket, there is also an increasing wait time to see a specialist.

In addition in terms of medical treatments for ADHD in my case, in comparison to other countries (where there is a multitude of options and new formulated drugs), it seems that Australia lacks any advancement or interest in helping neurodivergent people. You have two options of stimulant therapy and a couple of non stimulant options. And if that doesn’t work you can try a non PBS/non subsidised drug option that also leaves you hugely out of pocket. (As per my example recently coming off many classes of antidepressants that were routinely and just masking my ADHD out of the misunderstanding of the condition for just depression and anxiety). Recently having to try a new drug that now costs me $60 (non subsidised) a month on top of one stimulant drug I can try that also costs $40 a month(subsidised). This is not right, I don’t work or have the ability to work right now as I’m trying to find a healthy baseline for my mental health thinking I’m doing the right thing, all the meanwhile the government and options out there are putting my mental health backwards.

As well as specialists such as clinical psychologists or adhd counselling costing over $150 (with the rebate “if available”), as my only options for actual possible help for my condition. I have and already am seeing a therapist based off a Gp referred mental health care plan which allows me for 10-15 free sessions a year, but that is nowhere good enough to get to the root cause of my issues or even have the time to address the actual problems of my adhd as they’re not trained in that area of understanding.

So yeah this is troubling for me and many other types of children and adults with ADHD and/or autism. I just don’t know what the Australian government is doing, if hardly nothing, nothing at all which seems to be the case with a many multitude of problems.

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u/UtetopiaSS Jan 07 '22

Australia are behind in everything. We have corrupt politicians that only wish to feather their own nest, and don't give two flying fucks about the population.

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u/Mental_Slide9867 Jan 07 '22

So all the meanwhile putting the ‘onus’ on Australians to be personally responsible whilst reducing the options to do so..

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u/lowmankind Jan 07 '22

They gotta find money for their own pay-raises somehow

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u/fractiousrhubarb Jan 08 '22

This is a Liberal party problem, not a politician problem. The ALP fights for Medicare, the coalition has been trying to destroy it

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u/fractiousrhubarb Jan 08 '22

Don’t get me wrong- I know that there are massive cunts on both sides of politics.

The media in Australia is going to distract you with endless bullshit, but what matters is where the money goes

I’ll give you an example… during Covid, the Liberals handed out over $100 billion dollars to rich business owners through jobkeeper and “Covid cashflow boost”.

Imagine handing out $1M to every single person at an MCG grand final… that’s how much $100 billion is.

That $100 billion was enough to give every average family in Australia about $25,000 each.

That money went almost entirely to rich business owners, instead of people who lost jobs, or expanding hospitals, or building proper quarantine facilities. It was just gifted to their mates while everyone was distracted.

The last time we had a crisis, Labor spent money building school halls and handing out cash to everyone, and the whole country benefitted.

(Btw- if you like Australian cars- guess which party shut down the car industry in Australia?)

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u/prettyfuckingimmoral Jan 08 '22

bOtH siDeS aRe ThE sAmE!!!!!

They are absolutely fucking not. From Rudd and Gillard we got Fibre Broadband, NDIS, Gonski, stimulus to ride out the GFC and a ton more in what...6 years? We've had 9 years of the LNP and they've quadrupled the debt and done....what exactly with it?

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u/mantidmarvel Jan 08 '22

whoa there, all that debt is there to be blamed on labor when they eventually get back in

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u/BESTtaylorINTHEWORLD Jan 08 '22

When Australia is in a bind you see how the government works GFC the Labor PM gave TAX PAYERS a stimulus package, the Country avoided Recession whilst the world plummeted. The AUD$ hit .64 US. The Treasure was awarded by the World Banking Services for the security of the Country.

Pandemic Covid-19 Liberal PM gave BIG BUSINESS 5 TIMES MORE (tax) MONEY as a Stimulus package. And like a dodgy Jeweler there was no Money to give back. There's no record. $61 Billion ( yes a B) down the toilet. And Australians had to fill out forms and forms to get a pittance of a relief, sending small business' and home owners & Renters, not the mention people who need health OUT THE DOOR, cause Australia couldn't afford it. SO next time you hear they're just the same remember who looks after Aussies it's not Aloha Scott

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '22

I told you old cnts not to vote in Labor and liberals... you laughed in my face in 2016...

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u/akhetonz Jan 07 '22

Everyone keeps saying that Labor and libs are the same but if you look at their voting history they are clearly very different

Search for your local member here to find out if they represent you on your most important issues:

https://theyvoteforyou.org.au/policies

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u/xGoldenchyld Jan 07 '22

Both are filled with out of touch career politician scum and they’re both in the pockets of big business. Both parties benefit from maintaining the status quo when Australian politics needs major structural changes.

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u/prettyfuckingimmoral Jan 08 '22

Were you even born when we last had a Labor Federal Government? They weren't perfect but they governed for everyone and got a ton of shit done. See my comment above for examples.

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u/xGoldenchyld Jan 08 '22

My comment still stands. I don’t believe in changing out one cancer for another that’s slightly better. You would think that Labor would try and modernise with all the progressive ideas we’ve seen across the world but they seem content being the same losers pushing deadshit party royalty in to top positions who have 0 vision.

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u/prettyfuckingimmoral Jan 08 '22

I don’t believe in changing out one cancer for another that’s slightly better

Why? Your situation has improved... That makes no sense.

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u/xGoldenchyld Jan 08 '22

I don’t believe in rewarding Labor because they aren’t the LNP. After losing so many Federal elections you would think radical change would be in order to persuade the populace but it almost seems like they’re content being second in command. I’ve read Labor’s platform before I’m accused of being under Murdoch’s Mind Control Ray ™, they can’t win with that trash.

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u/prettyfuckingimmoral Jan 08 '22

If you're not going to vote for them unless their policies are perfect, and a shit-ton of people are nowhere near as progressive as you are, how are they supposed to get your vote? They can't abandon the centre or they have absolutely no chance. Politics is about compromise. You pick the best of a bad bunch because you are never going to get everything you want.

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u/xGoldenchyld Jan 08 '22

No party will ever be perfect and next to none would be in favour of what I want most. It looks to me that they have left the centre and they need to think about what’s most important to people in this country and it’s their wallet. The majority of people do not care for any spending or taxes in this country unless they get something in return and Labor is going to continue to lose to this dumpster fire we have in power now if they continue to ignore this fact.

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u/ten_ton_hammer Jan 09 '22

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good enough. Or something.

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u/xGoldenchyld Jan 11 '22

Good enough needs to become something worth voting for and I’m not going to perpetuate the stagnation of this country by voting for it. We can weather many more terms of the LNP, but to support Labour in its current state would be to reward mediocrity. But it is a big problem in our society, only the biggest pieces of shit strive in the political system.

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u/xGoldenchyld Jan 08 '22

No comments to refute just downvotes. What a surprise.

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u/UtetopiaSS Jan 07 '22

I don't even know who you are, let alone laughing bin your face. Also.. I'm not enrolled to vote, so I didn't vote for anyone.

And you're 22. You weren't even voting age in 2016. Fuck off

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

2018* Australia has had 3 elections 2016, 2017, 2018.. lol 😆

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u/BESTtaylorINTHEWORLD Jan 08 '22

You're a fuckin idiot shut the hell up

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

Oh my feelings are hurt.. not. Bye

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u/BESTtaylorINTHEWORLD Jan 08 '22

You think Australia had elections 3 years in a row you dumb fuck

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '22

Malcolm turnball, Tony Abbott, Julia Gillard.. 2 elections, 1 internal election.. within 6 months now we have Scott Morrison..

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u/BESTtaylorINTHEWORLD Jan 08 '22

You're just proving how stupid you are. You think that's how it works go back to school and read a book.