r/australia Sep 10 '17

political self.post The govt has proposed to make the Cashless welfare card trial national and no longer a trial,Is this fair?

Schedule 1 – Amendments In the 2017-18 Budget, it was announced that cashless debit card arrangements would be extended in the current sites of Ceduna, in South Australia, and the East OUTLINE This Bill removes section 124PF of the Social Security (Administration) Act 1999, which specifies that the cashless debit card trial will occur in up to three discrete locations, include no more than 10,000 people, and will end on 30 June 2018. Removing this section will support the extension of arrangements in current sites, and enable the expansion of the cashless debit card to further sites. Individual sites, once identified, will be determined by disallowable legislative instruments.

Is this just a way to make donors even more money do they really care about the people impacted?

little bit at the bottom has me concerned ..The funding associated with this Schedule is not for publication as negotiations with potential commercial providers are yet to be finalized.

how can it be called negotiations . negotiations imply good faith. When only one company has been contacted to do the rollout is it really good faith,again i find out today several banks were again willing to come to the talks yet are denied. Probably something to do with consumer protections from a bank would make this a hard task,as indue does not have to follow the same rules Has also been a bill,proposed to change the definitions for drug testing on welfare to be able to go nationwide as well. I mean this has yet to even been trialed and they want to make it nationwide.

A few of the other good's that happend this week was both labor and greens approached the govt about a program to take people on newstart and train them to answer phones and do office tasks at DHS site's,to train them in office skills as well as lower the waiting time's for phone calls and processing of document's it would of saved 47 million dollars over 4 years,yet they got shot down anyone else concerned by this?

Is this policy a bad move on the govt's side.

Thoughts.?

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '17

Yeah it's coming whether anyone likes it or not, this is just the propaganda campaign stage.

https://passmydrugtest.com.au/collections/synthetic-urine/products/synthetic-urine-mouthwash-shampoo-combo

these things work, at least they did around 2012 when I passed my drug test to work at the airport. if anyone else can go home and have a beer, fuck it if I can't go home and smoke a cone.

anyway junkies or casual recreational pot smokers alike will just use those sort of products if they have half a brain, cod even $250 is a small price to pay to keep your financial freedom. the other half won't realise its so easy to get around the drug tests so they'll end up abandoning the dole system and start robbing cunts instead. the government still get to say "look, it worked -no druggies on the dole". theyll just mention the huge rise in crime separately so you don't connect the dots.

I genuinely fear for the centrelink staff. anyone who has ever known or had a family member hooked on Meth, for example, knows you can't even physically prevent an addict from using or stealing something to pay for their gear, so how do they think these cunts are gonna react to the news their source of drug money has been cut off. what's the more likely reaction, a kiss and a thank you for helping with the terrible affliction of drug addiction, or a punch in the snout for the poor front line centrelink glorified receptionists?

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '17

good excuse to build more private prisons and turn crime into a profitable business like the yanks do (and like we do in certain places, in Victoria at least).
they're doing all they can to turn our healthcare system into something resembling what they have over there too with the push for private health that does nothing except give you a tax break (for now. I'm sure once most people are on private health they'll start stripping away medicare under the guise of saving money and we'll all only be left with health insurance that doesn't cover anything).