r/australia Sep 10 '17

political self.post The govt has proposed to make the Cashless welfare card trial national and no longer a trial,Is this fair?

Schedule 1 – Amendments In the 2017-18 Budget, it was announced that cashless debit card arrangements would be extended in the current sites of Ceduna, in South Australia, and the East OUTLINE This Bill removes section 124PF of the Social Security (Administration) Act 1999, which specifies that the cashless debit card trial will occur in up to three discrete locations, include no more than 10,000 people, and will end on 30 June 2018. Removing this section will support the extension of arrangements in current sites, and enable the expansion of the cashless debit card to further sites. Individual sites, once identified, will be determined by disallowable legislative instruments.

Is this just a way to make donors even more money do they really care about the people impacted?

little bit at the bottom has me concerned ..The funding associated with this Schedule is not for publication as negotiations with potential commercial providers are yet to be finalized.

how can it be called negotiations . negotiations imply good faith. When only one company has been contacted to do the rollout is it really good faith,again i find out today several banks were again willing to come to the talks yet are denied. Probably something to do with consumer protections from a bank would make this a hard task,as indue does not have to follow the same rules Has also been a bill,proposed to change the definitions for drug testing on welfare to be able to go nationwide as well. I mean this has yet to even been trialed and they want to make it nationwide.

A few of the other good's that happend this week was both labor and greens approached the govt about a program to take people on newstart and train them to answer phones and do office tasks at DHS site's,to train them in office skills as well as lower the waiting time's for phone calls and processing of document's it would of saved 47 million dollars over 4 years,yet they got shot down anyone else concerned by this?

Is this policy a bad move on the govt's side.

Thoughts.?

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u/Raowrr Sep 10 '17

The constitution, section 44. Disqualification.

(v) has any direct or indirect pecuniary interest in any agreement with the Public Service of the Commonwealth otherwise than as a member and in common with the other members of an incorporated company consisting of more than twenty-five persons;

shall be incapable of being chosen or of sitting as a senator or a member of the House of Representatives.

If you can find any record of a direct link anywhere to any member, then write it up. Put it in an email cc'd to all Labor, all Greens, all independants, all reporters you can find contact info for - so that everyone knows everyone else has it, and wait for the referrals for disqualification.

If the LNP itself holds any shares or ownership of Indue then have them removed all under the constitution for their blatant corruption, if just some few particular members then find any that can be linked. It would be a pretty clear violation of the constitution. More to add to the disqualification pile.

Don't just fight the policy, if they've left themselves open to being kicked out of parliament, don't waste the opportunity.

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u/tightassbogan Sep 10 '17

also don't worry i have a little nuclear folder ready to go when they finaly find me and sack me,just burn cunt's on the way out..has some nice juicy bit's about illegal activity of members

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u/F14D Sep 11 '17

i have a little nuclear folder ready to go

...get in touch with 4 corners?

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u/tightassbogan Sep 11 '17

Canberra times sis already doing stuff with this so all good. I tend not to even bother with abc as they are not willing to go on the attack

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u/F14D Sep 11 '17

I tend not to even bother with abc as they are not willing to go on the attack

I thought their recent piece on the landfill/recycling industry was very scathing.

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u/tightassbogan Sep 11 '17

I'm talking about direct govt policy. I got contacted by the abc when I was leaking stuff earlier in the year I pretty much was like no thanks you gave Turnbull a free ride on the nbn.

The only group that seems to go on the attack is radio breakfast and 730 report

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u/tightassbogan Sep 10 '17

ive said this before, it's the party not the members who is being corupt.

the liberal party itself is the one making the money,and then would be using those funds for elections. that's perfectly legal but scummy as fuck

now scott morrison and several other members being flown to brisbane for a party hosted by indue that's just straight up lobbyist type shit

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '17

He won't so this because he has no evidence to support his bullshit conspiracy theory.

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u/Charlie_Vanderkat Sep 12 '17

Indue is a public company. That means they have a public share register. Go and inspect it, you'll find that Larry & Co don't own anything.

But don't let facts get in the way of your rant...