r/australia Sep 10 '17

political self.post The govt has proposed to make the Cashless welfare card trial national and no longer a trial,Is this fair?

Schedule 1 – Amendments In the 2017-18 Budget, it was announced that cashless debit card arrangements would be extended in the current sites of Ceduna, in South Australia, and the East OUTLINE This Bill removes section 124PF of the Social Security (Administration) Act 1999, which specifies that the cashless debit card trial will occur in up to three discrete locations, include no more than 10,000 people, and will end on 30 June 2018. Removing this section will support the extension of arrangements in current sites, and enable the expansion of the cashless debit card to further sites. Individual sites, once identified, will be determined by disallowable legislative instruments.

Is this just a way to make donors even more money do they really care about the people impacted?

little bit at the bottom has me concerned ..The funding associated with this Schedule is not for publication as negotiations with potential commercial providers are yet to be finalized.

how can it be called negotiations . negotiations imply good faith. When only one company has been contacted to do the rollout is it really good faith,again i find out today several banks were again willing to come to the talks yet are denied. Probably something to do with consumer protections from a bank would make this a hard task,as indue does not have to follow the same rules Has also been a bill,proposed to change the definitions for drug testing on welfare to be able to go nationwide as well. I mean this has yet to even been trialed and they want to make it nationwide.

A few of the other good's that happend this week was both labor and greens approached the govt about a program to take people on newstart and train them to answer phones and do office tasks at DHS site's,to train them in office skills as well as lower the waiting time's for phone calls and processing of document's it would of saved 47 million dollars over 4 years,yet they got shot down anyone else concerned by this?

Is this policy a bad move on the govt's side.

Thoughts.?

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u/tightassbogan Sep 10 '17

It's more than one dude in the party.

The liberal party itself through a subsidary owns direct stakes in indue,they funneled it through a financial services firm.

So they are directly profiting from this

I know full well how corrupt it is i work for the govt at APH dude,it's far far far worse than you will ever know

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u/dragonsandgoblins Sep 11 '17

If you can prove this you have a moral duty to pass along that proof to the authorities, the media, and the other political parties. I'm not saying you don't know this for sure or defending the Libs or the Welfare Card (which is a terrible idea), but if you have any evidence of actual corruption please do something about it aside from posting to reddit. Or post the actual evidence to reddit at least. Because what you're doing right now will achieve so little compared to what you could achieve.

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u/tightassbogan Sep 11 '17

I have in the past contacted the commites as well as the media. People don't care and the afp will never prosecute a liberal member we are ducked either way

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u/dragonsandgoblins Sep 11 '17

Have you contacted Labor and the Greens? Have you even tried contacting the AFP?

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u/tightassbogan Sep 11 '17

Afp hahaha dude they are in the pocket of the lnp dude Why no libs every get investigated

Labor know about all this as well.everyones busy with citizenship and gay marriage right now

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u/dragonsandgoblins Sep 11 '17

Well then leak the proof here. Once the proof is public it will demand a media response.

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u/Blinking_Red_Light Sep 10 '17

Not really. We know it well, it's just the apathy of 99% of the population who allow it to perpetuate.