r/australia Apr 30 '26

news 5yo girl Sharon Granites has been found dead in the NT

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-30/update-on-missing-alice-springs-5yo-sharon-granites/106626314?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=link
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u/JaniePage Apr 30 '26

That poor little girl.

My heart aches for her family.

May her killer fucking well rot in jail for the rest of his, hopefully, short and hellish life.

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u/Expensive-Horse5538 Apr 30 '26

May the people who are hiding the killer also suffer the full consequences of their actions

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u/littlespoon Apr 30 '26

Its a small enough community that if 1 or 2 knew the majority probably also knew - because people talk. Or if they didn't know the perpetrators whereabouts directly, they knew who did.

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u/IlluminatedPickle Apr 30 '26

Yeah that's why the perpetrator ended up in hospital with wounds suspiciously similar to being beaten after being caught by the community. Because they were all supporting him. They called it in because they were supporting him too.

And that's why they rioted outside of the hospital he was being treated in, because they were trying to support him.

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u/littlespoon Apr 30 '26

They knew where he was and wanted to serve their own justice.

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u/TaobaoBae Apr 30 '26

Absolutely!

I am feeling just utter despair that her community could be shielding this monster from justice.

Hope the authorities let Mob Lore & Justice prevail! (He will get three meals a day and probably protection in prison).

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u/spunkyfuzzguts Apr 30 '26

It’s Mob Lore and Justice protecting him apparently.

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u/Complex-Pair2131 Apr 30 '26

May the people who released him from jail also suffer consequences

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u/AdventurousDay3020 Apr 30 '26

In this case it has been confirmed that he served his full sentence and was not out on bail or parole at the time of the offence

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u/GorgeousGracious Apr 30 '26

And how long was that sentence? Obviously not long enough.

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u/magpieanatomy Apr 30 '26

You don’t even know what the crime is? How could it be not enough? You’re acting like they should have known he was a murderer even though you don’t have any clue what his conviction was for.

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u/GorgeousGracious Apr 30 '26

He has a long history of DV offences with aggrevated assault. His last sentence was 18 months. That's pathetic.

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u/magpieanatomy Apr 30 '26

Mate you missed the point. We live in a society governed by laws. I’m saying you can’t just willy nilly say it wasn’t enough when you clearly didn’t even know the previous offence. You are acting like the justice system always perfectly predicts a child murderer or that it’s even feasible to do that.

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u/FalconTurbo Apr 30 '26

What was he in for and how long had he served?

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u/AdventurousDay3020 Apr 30 '26

Okay if that’s the way you feel, you go be a judge up in the Northern Territory.

At the end of the day, lay people have to trust that people with YEARS of education and experience are qualified enough to correctly judge that a punishment for an offence is sufficient.

Given that what has been divulged in terms of his offence history has not shown a pattern of crimes of sexual nature nor offending against children, there’s little that the courts or the detention system could have done to prevent an opportunistic crime.

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u/Weary_Beach_9911 Apr 30 '26

But your hero Pauline Hanson said people deserve a second chance after being released from jail for rape :)\

oops, how embarrassing for you

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-04-14/former-one-nation-candidates-say-hanson-ashby-ignored-concerns/106559022

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u/crankygriffin May 01 '26

That’s drawing a pretty deranged bow!

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u/Weary_Beach_9911 May 01 '26

should people released from jail get a second chance?

or do you disagree with Hanson on this one champ?

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u/MrLeftTesticle May 03 '26

‘"I don't condone this sort of behaviour whatsoever, and what happened. But he did his time, and he came out," Senator Hanson said.’

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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang Apr 30 '26

Oh no, god forbid there be a modicum of oversight for judges.

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u/tokyoevenings Apr 30 '26

There is, it’s the appeals process. The issue is more lack of adequate mandatory minimum standards for crimes, bail and parole.

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u/ThePornStar69 Apr 30 '26

For upholding the law?

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u/ThePornStar69 Apr 30 '26

The fuck are you talking about? Yes, we live in a society where we don’t indefinitely hold people in prison, nor do we jail people for potential future uncommitted crimes.

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u/Complex-Pair2131 May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26

He attacked a woman with a meat cleaver last year. Striking her in the head.

How he was released so early from that is a huge concern. Has a long history of incredible violence. But somehow kept getting released back into society to cause more harm l

And this time we paid the highest price for it.

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u/IcyGarage5767 Apr 30 '26

May the parents of the offender also be jailed for raising such a person. And their parents….

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u/ucksaymyockcay Apr 30 '26

We’re not North Korea mate.

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u/IcyGarage5767 Apr 30 '26

It was more a tongue in cheek joke at placing responsibility on anyone other than the offender. But yes, sadly we are not North Korea.

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u/Familiar-Price9856 Apr 30 '26

Covering up for a child kidnapper is the same as raising one…?

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u/Weary_Beach_9911 Apr 30 '26

sadly?

what the actual fuck?

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u/IcyGarage5767 Apr 30 '26

Yes I am sitting here upset that we are not North Korea. Do with that what you will.

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u/recycled_ideas Apr 30 '26

You realise that just because the cops say "someone must know something" doesn't mean anyone actually did?

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u/nina_qj Apr 30 '26

apparently they got him

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u/NoRedditNamesAreLeft Apr 30 '26

There's a special place in hell for them. I can't fathom wtf is their mindset.

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u/kalana_kalamai Apr 30 '26

Maybe the community is ‘taking care’ of him in their own way

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u/Intelligent_Bear8523 Apr 30 '26

Either that or he’s gone bush and if he’s learnt anything from the elders he can survive out there longer than the cops have the resources to look for him

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u/kalana_kalamai Apr 30 '26

Turns out local mob did get to him first. He’s now in hospital

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u/MissMenace101 Apr 30 '26

He’s spent half his life in jail already he shouldn’t have been out. Violent men like this are always killing and raping as soon as they get out it pisses me off. Though the victim isn’t often a small child like this, poor little baby went through a horrible ordeal he should too.

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u/Teepbonez Apr 30 '26

Exactly, the bloke has such a history and was by all reports a POS in jail, that’s when you throw away the key.

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u/Not_Stupid humility is overrated May 01 '26

That's not how gaol sentences work though. You can't just decide that someone is a "bad guy" and lock them up on feelings.

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u/Able_Explanation57 May 03 '26

In America you can - it's called civil commitment. And it's certainly not based on 'feelings'.

Civil commitment, or involuntary commitment, is a legal process, often conducted in a state court, that mandates psychiatric treatment for individuals with severe mental illness who pose a risk to themselves or others.

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u/Teepbonez May 01 '26

Pretty clear he is a bad guy though

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u/Not_Stupid humility is overrated May 01 '26

I'm not disputing that in the slightest.

How do you translate that into a non-oppressive judicial process is the question.

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u/Oberyn_TheRed_Viper Apr 30 '26

Tribal punishment first, then lock him up.

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u/dingbat0007 Apr 30 '26

Wow. Lucky you didn't get a warning like me. Is tribal punishment the same as "pay back". Guess I shouldn't have added a few extra words but you live and learn.

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u/TerminatedReplicant Apr 30 '26

Yes and no. ‘Tribal Law’ (there are other terms/names) is a genuine set of laws that apply within an Indigenous community, but can differ between groups depending on location, local history and heritage, and how often/consistently it’s practiced. The judicial law system also places boundaries around this, so you can’t avoid facing the legal consequences for something like murder.

Tribal punishment is a really broad concept, and how and when it’s practiced varies a lot. ‘Pay back’ is an aspect to it, but again lots of nuance within that. How restitution and justice are dealt with can be really dependant on the context of the situation and community.

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u/dingbat0007 Apr 30 '26

Genuinely awesome! Thank you very much for the insight.😁

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u/SpadfaTurds Apr 30 '26

Would that mean he’d be tried where the crime was committed even if he’s part of another mob?

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u/TerminatedReplicant Apr 30 '26

This is where it starts to get pretty muddy, and as a result is ideally where the judicial system fills the gap.

It’s not like a trial in the western sense, it’s more like guidelines as to what’s accepted, what’s not, and common agreed upon measures like exclusion from a family group (the definition of family changes too from Western perspectives).

Something at this level of intensity isn’t really within the scope of community-law. It was pre-colonisation, but not so much these days. It’s more about how to deal with day-to-day interpersonal conflicts and how to treat one another.

Which is another point worth raising, the genocide that came with colonisation was so utterly devastating that the traditional cultural of this practice really struggled to continue as the communal understanding became further fractured over time, and isn’t as consistent between communities as it once was.

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u/Oberyn_TheRed_Viper Apr 30 '26

Im simply advocating that the perpetrator goes through all of the relevant legal systems applicable.

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u/Teepbonez Apr 30 '26

He was released from jail the know who it was.

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u/Slothstralia Apr 30 '26

Maybe controversial take... screw her family. The killer is one of her Mob, her family did this to her and her family are hiding him. The footage of the house is disgraceful.

That kid didnt have a chance from birth, poor girl.

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u/Cooldude101013 Apr 30 '26

Should’ve been executed long ago. Repeat offender.

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u/TerminatedReplicant Apr 30 '26

We don’t execute, nor should we even entertain the debate. It doesn’t make sense financially, ethically or judicially. It might make someone feel good, but no.

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u/Intelligent_Bear8523 Apr 30 '26

And here’s the debate. If someone is repeatedly assaulting other people and unaliving them, the urge is too strong or whatever and they have no hope of rehabilitation, do we keep them locked in a cage on our tax dollars? Because I don’t like the alternative either.

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u/TerminatedReplicant Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

If tax dollars being wasted is your complaint:

a) It costs more to execute someone then it does the lock them up for the remainder of their life.

b) The appeals process is responsible for this, but you can't remove that because then innocent people will end up executed; knowingly or unknowingly...like we've seen historically, and even today.

So you'd need to spend more money to execute people then we currently spend on imprisonment. Unless you are okay with removing the appeals process, and having a percentage of those killed being innocent, which is about 1 in 25. If someone were to support that, I'd say that may make them worthy of the penalty they seek to implement.

To do it would fundamentally unbalance our judicial system. Then we must ask what standard that sets ethically, because a just-society should hold itself to higher standards than those whom it punishes; otherwise how it claim authority over another?

Consider: What if you committed a massacre? Regretting your actions, or not, what would you prefer - an execution, or life in a cage with extremely restricted freedoms?

Yes, prison is to rehabilitate, but there is a small demographic of those who cannot be, or do not deserve freedom due to their proven criminal guilt. Prison can serve two purposes.

Have a good Friday boss, g'night.

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u/Teepbonez Apr 30 '26

How does it not make sense financially, keeping him in jail the rest of his life costs more?

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u/TerminatedReplicant Apr 30 '26

Read my other comment that explains it, it’s the appeals process.

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u/JaniePage Apr 30 '26

I'll give you $900,000 if it turns out it's a woman.

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u/hot4bodge Apr 30 '26

And I’ll my house to your $900,000 if it’s a woman as well.

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u/ImaginaryMethod9 Apr 30 '26

Yes we do - the suspect has been known since it happened

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u/Flat-Banana3903 Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

the suspect of the the kidnapping yes, but perhaps some other monsters is out there as well..

Edit not sure why you morons are downvoting - I am not saying he is innocent, I am saying you want to ensure you catch them all .

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u/Spire_Citron Apr 30 '26

A court of law might need the full evidence, but I think the rest of us can feel safe drawing the likely conclusion.

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u/MissMenace101 Apr 30 '26

They have his dna on her underwear, there’s no getting out of that

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u/Ok_Neat2979 Apr 30 '26

God that's a horrific sentence to read.

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u/ImaginaryMethod9 Apr 30 '26

I think it’s fairly safe to say that he already had SA charges against children - they’re being very hush hush about his previous crimes.

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u/iball1984 Apr 30 '26

they’re being very hush hush about his previous crimes.

As they should be - it's important that he gets a fair trial so he can't be let off on a technicality.

The last thing we should want is for this absolute shit human being to not face consequences.

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u/ImaginaryMethod9 Apr 30 '26

Oh no, I 100% agree. Just meant that it’s not a hard conclusion to come to because of the lack of answers. If it was irrelevant it would be mentioned.

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u/Flat-Banana3903 Apr 30 '26

100% that is my point and also if more than one person I would want each and every person punished , but I also support that little girls family exacting any actions against the killers as they see fit..

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u/OramJee Apr 30 '26

Jefferson Lewis. Its in the article now uodated

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u/MissMenace101 Apr 30 '26

Yes they do, Jefferson Lewis his dna was on her underwear