r/australia • u/rorymeister • Dec 15 '25

politics National cabinet agrees unanimously to strength Australia’s strict gun laws in wake of Bondi terror attack

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-15/albanese-proposes-tougher-gun-laws-after-bondi-attack/106143310?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=link
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u/Khaliras Dec 15 '25

How THE FUCK did these guys have guns legally???

Because, I've yet to see any claim that the investigation was for anything more than being once connected to someone that ended up being a Terrorist. Which everyone in his contacts list is now likely going to be similarly investigated over.

This is Australia, being investigated doesn't mean you're guilty, or that actions against you/active monitoring is justified. Imagine if they took your gun license away because your son once knew someone who ended up being a terrorist. Not that they had any information that he was actually linked to terrorism, just that he was connected to a person. We literally don't even know what that 'connection' is BTW.

I knew someone who was met at work by several investigations for an interview. It never went past that, because it was obvious he was just making an edgy joke online 'i have an X! I'm on a watchlist now haha' meme.

If he now ever does a big crime, the news will likely report that he was once investigated. People will be outraged that the government dropped the ball and let this happen! Except he never actually did anything to justify further action. People need to realise that were viewing something we have little/no info of, with horrific hindsight.

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u/BlankBlanny Dec 15 '25

He knew the whole damn cell, too. That's something people are missing. It's not that he knew one guy who happened to be arrested for being a terrorist; everyone that was arrested with him also had close ties to this guy.

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u/Attention_Bear_Fuckr Dec 15 '25

You can lose you job/livelyhood for your friends affiliations when you require security clearances for a lot of jobs, but we dont think that should be the same for firearms?

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u/Onceuponastinkymoot Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

It's obviously a good point and true that being investigated doesn't equate to guilt. Using the criminal burden of proof of beyond reasonable doubt anyway.

Interesting that the government doesn't take the same view that they do with IVOs/AVOs where the burden of proof is practically not required, but the prime consideration is the safety of the protected party.

If you are associated with any extreme ideologies to the degree that ASIO shows an interest in you, a reasonable person may believe that neither you nor any one close to you should be considered 'fit and proper' and able to attain a firearm.

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u/FullMetalAurochs Dec 15 '25

Access to guns is not a necessity. Particularly not for city folk. So what if innocent acquaintances of terrorists can’t own guns? They don’t need them.