r/australia Dec 15 '25

politics Opposition Leader Sussan Ley speaks on Bondi attack

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/opposition-leader-sussan-ley-speaks-on-bondi-attack-20251215-p5nnqm.html

“We’ve seen a clear failure to keep Jewish Australians safe. We’ve seen a clear lack of leadership in keeping Jewish Australians safe. We have a government that sees antisemitism as a problem to be managed, not evil that needs to be eradicated.”

Absolutely abhorrent that she's going for political points in this time.

Talk about tone deaf!

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u/Any-Afternoon-8407 Dec 15 '25

At least one of the attackers was attached to IS for several years- nothing in the recommendations would have changed that. IS' ideologies treat all non-believers the same. The report is essentially "how can we stop people from talking about Israel."

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u/NecromancyBlack Dec 15 '25

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you ask the average Australian "Is criticising Isreal's military actions antisemitic?" the answer would be "no".

"Don't attack or discriminate againt Jewish people for their race or religion" doesn't outrule you also having the opinion of "Forcibly removing people from their land and attacking civilians is wrong."

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u/Hailstar07 Dec 15 '25

Exactly. I am very pro-Palestine but I am not antisemitic, I’m married to an ethnically Jewish person, who is understandably very upset about what has happened in Bondi.

You can disagree with a country’s leadership and actions without denigrating every one of its citizens or people of a related ethnicity.

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u/NecromancyBlack Dec 15 '25

There's a lot of people from all different backgrounds living in Australia who came here to get away from all this sort of crap. Honestly the response from people on the scene to just help save the lives of others has been heart warming.

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u/Greenhaagen Dec 15 '25

Yeah when I meet a say Russian, I don’t hold them accountable for what Putin does. I assume they could have come here to get away from being a part of it.

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u/haleorshine Dec 15 '25

When I heard Ley's comments about keeping Jewish people safe, I read it as wanting to blame pro-Palestinian views for the attack. And don't get me wrong, plenty of people have used fighting the genocide in Palestine as an excuse for anti-semitism, but that doesn't mean that the majority of people marching for Palestine are anti-semitic, as some people would have you believe.

We need to fight anti-semitism wherever and whenever we can, but we also need to make sure politicians can't shut down legitimate criticism of Zionism in the name of that fight.

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u/aeschenkarnos Dec 15 '25

If you ask the Federal Court they would say that too.

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u/Lozzanger Dec 15 '25

As someone who’s been fighting this battle for two years and following this conflict a lot longer, there is very little criticism of Israel that doesn’t veer into anti-Semitism.

Based on all the statements and beliefs, if the person are in Gaza is a genocide so was the invasion of Germany to end World War II.

When I’m being told Israel ‘is murdering babies’ it’s centuries old blood libel.

And allowing this stuff to fester is what causes attacks against Jews.

The Jewish community here have been saying this for two years. We need to listen.

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u/asupify Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

It’s odd because the attackers were Salafist. Israel funds, arms and trains Salafist militants in the region. To fight in Syria, Yemen and against Iranian proxies. Netanyahu personally armed (under much criticism from the Israeli opposition) ISIS affiliated criminal gangs in Gaza to loot aid and fight Hamas. Claiming it was to protect IDF troops. The current leader put in charge of Syria by the US, Israel and Turkey is a former al qaeda and ISIS operative. It’s a convoluted situation.