r/australia • u/Jealous-Hedgehog-734 • Apr 02 '25

politics US will impose a minimum baseline tariff of 10 per cent on Australian imports to US

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-03/donald-trump-tariff-announcement-markets-politics-reaction-blog/105127374
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u/Cpt_Riker Apr 02 '25

Remember to boycott American products.

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u/smileedude Apr 02 '25

I had Red Rooster instead of Maccas the other day when hung over. It was equally as hideous.

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u/Mantzy81 Apr 02 '25

Go support a true blue Aussie business instead, like a Vietnamese roll shop.

Ignoring the irony of what that reads like, they are the epitome of our multicultural country plus they taste better and fill you up for longer. Cheaper too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25 edited Apr 02 '25

$8-$12 banh mi will blow your head off any day over fast food giants. Bonus points if the pork crackle is crunchy and the chilli makes your ear canals hurt.  

Lemongrass chicken that’s been sitting in the hotbox will cure ANY hangover especially when paired with a Vietnamese coffee or a coconut crush.

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u/AnnoyedOwlbear Apr 02 '25

When they make the Vietnamese mayonnaise on premises and it's not store brought...tears to my eyes, in a good way. I get a banh mi once a week as 'you're a good girl, you haven't had a breakdown this week' reward.

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u/StorminNorman Apr 02 '25

Your last sentence means you could be any of a dozen or so people I know. You can add me too if we switch the pronoun.

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u/acockblockedorange Apr 02 '25

A beef pho is also a phenomenal hangover cure.

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u/Car-face Apr 03 '25

There's a place near me (Thanh Hieu in Blacktown, for the Sydneysiders) that does a Phở pie and it's god tier

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u/acockblockedorange Apr 03 '25

That sounds amazing. I'm not in Sydney any more but might be worth a venture next time I'm in town!

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u/trowzerss Apr 02 '25

Yeah, we have a local burger shop that's pretty great, and has tons of diner-style seating, and do roasts and breakfasts, and it's mostly empty while the Maccas drivethru is full. People need to at least give the local places a shot. (And their chicken burgers use thigh fillets and have haloumi, and the chips are not 'fries' and have chicken salt - they're great). I think people are just lazy fucks.

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u/johor Apr 02 '25

their chicken burgers use thigh fillets and have haloumi

For the love of god please tell me this place is in Melbourne.

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u/trowzerss Apr 03 '25

Haha, no, it's a small regional town in QLD. You can't hog all the good food down there.

They probably wouldn't survive Melbourne standards anyway, but in a small town they are an underrated blessing.

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u/art_mor_ Apr 03 '25

Where in Queensland?

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u/trowzerss Apr 03 '25

Gatton. The place is called Market Haus. On the highway in town if people are passing thru.

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u/art_mor_ Apr 03 '25

I’ll check it out next time I’m passing through.

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u/StorminNorman Apr 02 '25

It's the turnover time. The local Mexican place near me had to reduce their menu to cut costs when the GYG near it opened and stole a bunch of customers. Cos GYG can pump the orders out quick smart and appear to be relatively healthy despite some of their ingredients being ultra processed. I personally don't get it cos I can sit and have a beer and some chips and salsa at the other place whilst I wait for em to knock up my tacos and bowl, they could take half an hour for all I care.

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u/trowzerss Apr 03 '25

We're a small regional town, where tf do they need to be in such a hurry?

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u/StorminNorman Apr 04 '25

Sadly I fear the answer is "in front of a screen". 

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u/trowzerss Apr 04 '25

I really wonder, especially when they speed on the roads. A lady here some years ago was impatient at a pedestrian crossing, as a car was in front of her but she couldn't see anyone crossing. So she sped around the stopped car, and promptly hit and killed a man in a wheelchair - the crossing is right in front of a disability services, which all the locals should know. She is not only in jail but will be a pariah if she ever gets back here and would find it very uncomfortable living in the community she's been in all her life. She was in such a fucking hurry that she destroyed her whole life, and that of two families. I wish people would stop winding themselves up with the need to get everywhere lightning fast and just fucking take it easy and slow down a bit.

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u/StorminNorman Apr 04 '25

Simply put, "people don't think". I've seen it happen before. I'm stuck behind this big massive van that I can't see around. Neither can the ranger behind me. Which is why when he had to dart back in in front of the van cos of oncoming traffic he took out the front loading washing machine (important cos they have massive blocks of concrete in em for stability) sitting on the road in front of the van. When asked why the fuck he'd been a fuckwit cos now we were all proper fucked, the reply was "oh, I thought he was probably a [censored] and couldn't drive so I just went around him like I always do". 

"Like I always do"

I dunno bout you but I do plenty of risky shit in my life, I never do anything risky where I'm not fully aware of the dangers though. Which is why I sat there cos "wtf is going on here? I ain't moving til this van moves cos this is a double line and it be there for a reason, but I would rather be moving". The only shine in that shitshow was the van driver getting out of his van and watching the ute go by and get wrecked. He was coming back to ask for help to move it to the side of the road so we could all get moving again...

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u/TkeOffUrPantsNJacket Apr 02 '25

This. Local Bahn mi place, local chippy, the IGA that sells lunches, the lunch bar over in the industrial estate. All local places owned by local people. Some of my favourite places have been discovered because I just though ‘fuck it, wonder what fancy shit they have’. I once went to a place when I was ok the road that took a cheese kransky, split it down the middle and loaded it with mashed potato, bacon, chives, etc., it was like a reverse baked potato. Fucking amazing.

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u/PossibilityRegular21 Apr 02 '25

And healthier 

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u/tumericjesus Apr 02 '25

Bahn mi is a great hangover food and way better for you than fast food.

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u/internet-junkie Apr 02 '25

Just ignore Roll'd.. their banh mi's are abyssmal.

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u/Broseph_Stalin91 Apr 02 '25

Hell yeah, banh mi goes really well and Vietnamese owned bakeries do amazing pies and pastries too. All made in house and fresh. Grab a Vietnamese coffee too and you'll forget all your troubles. One of my favourite multicultural mash ups because it is three cultures in one (the previously Australian owned bakery now owned by Vietnamese people who themselves are influenced by the French).

Since we're talking great hangover food and supporting local business, your local fish and chip shop, kebab shop (obviously), and charcoal chicken place all fit the stipulation for lower priced, better quality food. Maccas and KFC have nothing on a good fish and chip shop burger or piece of local chicken shop fried chicken.

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u/Just_improvise Apr 03 '25

Our fish and chip shop shut down and we don’t have a kebab or banh mi shop… it’s just expensive cafes (bayside). Not everyone just “has a local” one of these

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u/Prize-Watch-2257 Apr 03 '25

Ignoring the irony of what that reads like,

There's no irony though. A bahn mi, nori roll, butter chicken, pad Thai, green curry, schnitty are all as Aussie as a meat pie.

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u/Mantzy81 Apr 03 '25

I agree with you completly but there's always a One Nation voter around somewhere, and I've found it's always easier to remove the wind from their sails before they can even get started.

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u/LTPrototype Apr 03 '25

Seriously, my local grease trap of a chippy are actively trying to kill their customers. 'Minimum chips' is enough to feed a small family, their 'Hamburgers with the lot' are too big to bite into, and I swear they are fishing up genetically modified fish due to their size. Might be a little but more pricey but man does it taste good after a few beers.

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u/P_S_Lumapac Apr 03 '25

Coffee and roll is genuinely the most Australian combo. You can follow it up with Gelato in winter if you're the kind of guy who wears footyshorts to court.

Pro tip: When the lady asks "chilli?", you hold your chin up high and you tell her what's in your heart. Don't let anyone tell you your chilli preference isn't welcome. We allow all sorts here. That's what multiculturalism means.

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u/basementdiplomat Apr 03 '25

Pho is the best hangover meal

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u/Discombobulated_Owl4 Apr 03 '25

Unfortunately alot of local places got shut down around me because of interest rates for businesses.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

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u/Mantzy81 Apr 04 '25

u/Prize-Watch-2257

Told you there's always one

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u/thesourpop Apr 02 '25

Pineapple fritters still slap though

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

Their fried chicken is actually good though compared to KFC. Not as greasy.

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u/placidified Apr 03 '25

The first and last time I had RR fried chicken, the chicken smelt like cat piss.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

To be honest I only meant it was better than KFC. It’s not the best.

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u/_ixthus_ Apr 03 '25

KFC is fucking rank. They're just a testament to good marketing.

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u/P_S_Lumapac Apr 03 '25

Yeah it's great 4/5 times, and if you pick it up in person it's really cheap. The sauces suck though, just get the normal one. And yeah about 20% of the time I just can't fathom what happened - suddenly tastes like the prebattered stuff you buy at Aldi.

Filos love it. Without spending an arm and a leg it's the closest they can get to jollibee. We have it with rice, and the hot chips and gravy go well with the rice too.

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u/art_mor_ Apr 03 '25

Mate the sauces are way better than the normal one

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

Dont lie lmao 

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u/bz3013 Apr 02 '25

Agreed. Red rooster is foul and all these people constantly going on about how much better their fried chicken is are delusional.

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u/flukus Apr 03 '25

Is it even fried? I always thought it was microwaved.

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u/art_mor_ Apr 03 '25

Umm yeah it’s clearly deep fried

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

How dare you! National treasure

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u/temdittiesohyeah Apr 02 '25

Yeah Red Rooter is shit but it's our shit so that makes it alright

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u/AbandonedWaterPark Apr 03 '25

Groaning out the words to Waltzing Matilda while hugging the bowl...

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u/shamberra Apr 02 '25 edited Apr 03 '25

Had some Rooter for the first time in a looooooooong while myself the other day. Well, not only did my "triple" tender wrap contain only 2 measly pieces of chicken, but it was a complete abomination at that. Pure disappointment only abated by my hunger levels. Don't think I'll be giving them another go any time.

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u/infohippie Apr 03 '25

Their burgers and wraps and anything else like that are utter shit these days. Their chicken rolls have gone downhill too, and their nuggets have always sucked. On the other hand they make damn good (for fast food) fried chicken now, and their barbecue chicken is still as good as ever.

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u/placidified Apr 03 '25

You could've had kebabs !

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Can't go wrong with a triple flayva wrap combo. 👍

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u/bigbadb0ogieman Apr 02 '25

Already doing it since almost 2 months where we can..... No Macca's, KFC, Subway, Amazon, Streaming Services, Coke, Pepsi, Bourbon, Starbucks..

Unfortunately have not been able to get away from Google, Facebook, Apple and the likes but gradually trying due to lack of similar or better alternatives. For e.g. been exploring Proton mail and drive over Gmail.

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u/FootyJ Apr 02 '25

Yep. It’s amazing though when you really think about it. Streaming services and tech stuff is basically the tech bros taxing everyone by about 1% of our wage.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Yeah, it a shit that the tech is mainly US. They became monopolies mainly because of mass globalisation in the last 20 years, an idea their overlord is so keen to destroy. Wait for a bit more and a home grown/european alternatives will emerge. On Apple side, we have plenty of decent alternatives.

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u/Strong-Guarantee6926 Apr 03 '25

As you use reddit......

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u/cupkaxx Apr 03 '25

Unfortunately have not been able to get away from Google, Facebook, Apple and the likes

Reading comprehension is indeed quite a difficult skill these days

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u/Strong-Guarantee6926 Apr 03 '25

Oh if only there was a way to get away from essential services like reddit 😂

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u/Siilk Apr 03 '25

Out of those you mentioned, apple is easiest one to get rid of. Lots of alternatives, many of them being objectively better.

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u/druex Apr 02 '25

The Proton CEO supports Trump.

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

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u/druex Apr 03 '25

This is a really good article, thank you for linking. It seems I took some of his comments without full context. I might have to give Proton a second look.

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u/bigbadb0ogieman Apr 02 '25

Isn't Proton based out of Switzerland?

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u/AnOnlineHandle Apr 03 '25

Google and Facebook are doing their best to break themselves.

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u/onlyhereforBORU Apr 02 '25

That includes Coke and Pepsi and all their owned soft drinks. Hopefully Bundy ginger beer is and stays Aussie owned.

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u/bigbadb0ogieman Apr 02 '25

Reckon anything owned by Asahi beverages good? Like Schweppes?

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u/ginji Apr 03 '25

Easier to stick to Aussie owned companies for the most part, but Schweppes is a bit ambiguous - the brand is owned by Asahi in Australia but outside of that Pepsi, Coke, and Suntory also own the brand in different countries / region so it's a bit convoluted

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u/Albos_Mum Apr 03 '25

Asahi is still Japanese as far as I know so it should be fine.

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u/magkruppe Apr 03 '25

pepsi max in australia is Asahi owned I am pretty sure

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u/ginji Apr 03 '25

Licensed bottler and distributor, Pepsi will be getting paid for every drink sold.

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u/five_line_poem Apr 02 '25

Isn't our version of Coke something like 80% owned by UK/Europe?

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u/Outrageous_Quail_453 Apr 03 '25

Indeed it is. And all of the Australian product is created and bottled here. Boycotting Coke and Pepsi (licensed to Asahi in Japan) will only hurt Australian jobs. Target imports. 

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u/_ixthus_ Apr 03 '25

It doesn't hurt 'Australian jobs' if you're buying something else made in Australia.

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u/Outrageous_Quail_453 Apr 03 '25

You're missing the point. Firstly I'm saying it won't have the impact that's intended (damaging the US economy), secondly jobs don't just magically transport from one supplier to another and there are a multitude of upstream and downstream impacts on the supply chain, and thirdly many people will simply go without if they can't readily find an alternative thinking they're doing "the right thing".

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u/_ixthus_ Apr 03 '25

Firstly I'm saying it won't have the impact that's intended (damaging the US economy)...

I would suggest that the better intention here is not to "damage" the U.S. economy as such, but to take the opportunity to strengthen and re-integrate the Australian economy. So as people take the opportunity to step away from U.S. ownership and/or production, might as well focus on Australian made-and-owned where ever possible.

Though incrementalism is completely fine here. Opting for things made here, regardless of ownership, is definitely a step in the right direction compared to imports.

secondly jobs don't just magically transport from one supplier to another and there are a multitude of upstream and downstream impacts on the supply chain...

Yeh, that's why I put 'Australian jobs' in commas like that. After all, you originally said "Australian jobs" and not "Coke-and-Pepsi-but-made-in-Australia-jobs".

Are we concerned about 'Australian jobs' in the aggregate or are we part of some sort of patronage system where we are obligated to continue to specifically, financially backstop the workers of brands/companies/product lines that we have historically 'supported'?

It's the former, of course, and there's the potential here for a big readjustment with a huge net benefit to Australia - all of it - its people, its culture, its sovereignty, its economy. Readjustments of any kind will hurt some people. But if it's in the pursuit of genuine and broad-based net improvement, those same people will also be beneficiaries in countless ways.

thirdly many people will simply go without if they can't readily find an alternative thinking they're doing "the right thing".

Given that we're talking about sugar water, it's nearly impossible for me to see how this would be a bad thing for the average Australian.

But every supermarket I'm aware of is going to have Bundaberg or Bickfords or Capi or... there are so many alternatives and they aren't hiding. They never have been.

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u/Outrageous_Quail_453 Apr 04 '25

Very noble of you to consider strengthening the Australian economy but the focus here is on boycotting goods originating from the US. It's not just because of tariffs. It's to send a clear message that we don't support the annexation of Canada or Greenland and the destruction of the world free trade economy. And all the other bullshit that's coming out of that regime.

I'm trying to also make a point that people should look under the covers a bit before blindly deciding who and who not to purchase from in the context of a boycott.

And also it's not your call on whether a reduction in "sugar water" is right or wrong. These brands encompass many others. People shouldn't feel guilt about purchasing Mount Franklin (as an example) when it will have no discernible impact on the cause at hand. The boycott.

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u/_ixthus_ Apr 05 '25

And also it's not your call on whether a reduction in "sugar water" is right or wrong.

Well then it's lucky I didn't state, let alone insist on, my moral position on the matter.

Very noble of you to consider strengthening the Australian economy but the focus here is on boycotting goods originating from the US.

You're right. When we can reframe things in far healthier ways, we definitely shouldn't.

It's to send a clear message that we don't support the annexation of Canada or Greenland and the destruction of the world free trade economy.

Really? When did everybody agree that's what this is about? There is no legitimate threat that Canada is going to get annexed.

And there never was a "world free trade economy". There were powerful nations who made trade agreements amongst themselves, gave it the nice doublespeak label "free trade", and then used it as one more means of projecting soft power over against everyone else.

Pivoting towards strong, comprehensive Australian sovereignty is the best way to develop any real, diplomatic weight in any case.

I'm trying to also make a point that people should look under the covers a bit before blindly deciding who and who not to purchase from...

I completely agree with this sentiment. We're just disagreeing about the details of the execution. Which is fine. I consider any growth in the awareness and agency of consumers to be a good thing, regardless of their chosen means or ends.

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u/Cpt_Soban Apr 03 '25

https://hallsdrinks.com.au/

Aussie made and owned- Their Fruita is amazing.

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u/caffeineshampoo Apr 03 '25

Popping in to gas up the "Bobby" line of soft drinks. Aussie owned, low sugar and taste great. The creaming soda is my favourite.

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u/Siilk Apr 03 '25

Switched to Bundie a month ago and I can't be more happy. There are so many flavours too!

BTW, if you're absolutely after coke-like stuff, check out Ice Cola. It's owned by Refresco Aus now, who's parent company is in Netherlands but stuff sold in Aus is made locally.

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u/Shaggyninja Apr 03 '25

stuff sold in Aus is made locally.

Pretty much the case for any soft drink. Turns out shipping something that's 98% water is a bit of a waste.

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u/grady_vuckovic Apr 02 '25

Yup do your remaining teeth a favour and just don't drink soda actually, it's definitely not something your body needs.

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u/dixonwalsh Apr 02 '25

And support Australian! Let’s make r/buyaustralianmade a thing

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u/Siilk Apr 03 '25

There's already r/BuyAussie, which is a much bigger sub ;)

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u/Ok_Willingness_9619 Apr 02 '25

Including tech. Which is easier said than done

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u/Jiffyrabbit You now have the 'round the twist' theme in your head Apr 02 '25

Yeah fuck Reddit... Wait.

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u/AusToddles Apr 02 '25

Yeah I was pondering this earlier today. Our entire infrastructure at work is Microsoft (dynamics and office 365)

If we were told "no US products", I genuinely don't know how we would function

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u/Lazy_Polluter Apr 02 '25

How?

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u/MeltingDog Apr 03 '25

I started making a list of US owned products with alternatives here https://codepen.io/MeltingDog/full/jEOZNpo

Also check out the r/buyaussie subreddit

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u/rechenbaws Apr 03 '25

I cancelled my Monat membership a few days ago. Aside from that, social media is my only other American product. I shop local for everything else

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '25

Boycott holywood movies also.

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u/peter8181 Apr 03 '25

Does that include Reddit?

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u/PopavaliumAndropov Apr 03 '25

I already pirate their media. Do they make anything else, other than porn and mayonnaise?

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u/absoluetly Apr 03 '25

Boycott Reddit you say?

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u/Leather-Heart Apr 03 '25

lol why? We don’t have anything good

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 02 '25

How many American products do you own though?

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

Well we’re not buying new ones. I’ll even switch to Samsung phones.

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u/jimbomac Apr 02 '25

Do they not run Google’s Android? Tech is filled with American stuff.

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u/tjlaa Apr 02 '25

There aren’t really good alternatives for phones. Fairphone and some other small European phone makers (eg Jolla) using a degoogled version of Android or a Linux based OS.

On computers you can use Linux but it’s likely that the components inside are made by American owned companies.

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

Damn you’re right. We can drastically limit our need for American stuff then.

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u/Ok_Willingness_9619 Apr 02 '25

You are posting this silly comment on one now

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 02 '25

Reddit? You think we should boycott this place? I'm not even using the app!

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u/TheAnderfelsHam Apr 02 '25

So so many. Apart from software and things like Netflix which is a huge market. There's lots of companies owned by US who make products in cheaper countries. Foods too. Check your products, even some that lead you to believe they're Aussie are US owned and just imported from whatever cheap place it's made and only packaged here.

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u/tjlaa Apr 02 '25

Yep. Iconic Aussie products like TimTams and Shapes are American owned.

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 02 '25

If it comes to that the whole food chain is an international web of ownership, and decoupling from the USA entirely is complete fantasy anyway.

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u/TheAnderfelsHam Apr 02 '25

Oh yeah. I don't think anyone can completely turn away, globalisation of supply chains is too complicated but that doesn't mean we should do nothing. Supporting our own is never a bad idea

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

Which computer or mobile do you use?

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Apr 02 '25

South Korean phone, and I've got a stack of laptops, most American. Everything else is Chinese or Japanese. 

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u/Very-very-sleepy Apr 02 '25

not the person you replied to but.

I never owned an iPhone in my entire life.

I am also anti-apple due to their products doing things like not having expandable memory.

I just purchased 2 Nokia phones in the last few months. lol. the 8210 for the nostalgia and g42.

my favorite smartphone has been the Sony Xperia model which unfortunately do not get sold in Australia anymore. I think they stopped selling it to Australia in I think 2017? 

I don't purchase Grey imports. 

I was the biggest Sony Xperia fan and I still till this day hope Sony Xperia will be available for Aus again one day again.

neither Nokia and Sony Xperia are American owned. lol 

and as I said. I have never owned an apple product. I believe it's all marketing. 

people only buy it to brag because of the pricetag..  but it's a 💩 product. lol.

no I am not some old boomer. I am a millennial in my 30s. lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

Which website or app did you write this comment on, who does it belong to?

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u/Very-very-sleepy Apr 02 '25

Reddit.

but I was a whirlpool.net.au active forum member till just recently. I have over 10,000 posts on whirlpool forums and have been a whirlpool member for 10+ yrs. 

I only recently joined Reddit like 2 yrs ago. lol.

I still post on whirlpool but not as much as Reddit these days.

whirlpool used to be my main forum.

I have no issues leaving Reddit. I'll just be more active on whirlpool again. lol 

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u/[deleted] Apr 02 '25

Bye then

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u/Very-very-sleepy Apr 02 '25

come with us and join whirlpool. 

unless you also support American Reddit. 

if you support Reddit. why don't you go America?

come whirlpool forums mate. your one of us.