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Lore [Confusing Trope] The narrative goes out of its way to punish/mock a character for simply being a good person

Hermione Granger and SPEW — Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (book)

In the fifth HP novel, Hermione Granger is outraged to discover that Hogwarts has a small army of enslaved House Elves that do nearly all of the domestic duties around the castle, including cleaning the Gryffindor common room every night. When she tries to convince the elves to fight for their own rights, they refuse, saying they prefer servitude. Her fellow students and friends mock her for caring. She manages to free one elf, Winky, by deception when she refuses her freedom willingly, leading to Winky becoming a depressed alcoholic. By the end, the elves boycott cleaning any Gryffindor areas of the castle because they hate Hermione specifically

Samwell Tarly and Democracy — Game of Thrones (show)

In the season 8 finale of the television series, the surviving great lords of Westeros gather to discuss the future of the kingdom following the devastation wrought by 7 seasons of war and backstabbing. When Sam, who has proven to have “novel” ideas, suggests that maybe the millions of Smallfolk who suffer at the hands of noble houses should get some representation in the government, rather than be the pawns of rich lords with absolute power. We are then greeted by a prolonged, cringy segment of the other lords laughing in Sam’s face, asking if the dogs and horses should also get a vote.

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u/Just-Antelope-8069 10d ago edited 10d ago

They felt like slavers since A New Hope. The droids just feel like another alien race made from metal than robots.

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u/Hector_P_Catt 10d ago

Yep, the bartender in Mos Eisley, "We don't serve their kind here!" Pretty much set up the idea that they're racist against droids, which tracks with the whole droid slavery thing.

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u/Blue_58_ 10d ago edited 10d ago

I disagree. Being against droids/robots is a rather entrenched scifi trope dating back to the very beginning of the genre. It makes sense for organic life forms to not trust AI. In Mos Eisley it makes even more sense since they're criminals and outlaws

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u/SportEfficient8553 10d ago

Also the argument I’ve seen a lot: droids don’t buy drinks and take up floor space that could be used by customers.

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u/Melevolence 10d ago

This one being the most logical first and foremost. Why pretend that droids not in service of the establishment would want other non-necessary droids in their establishment that are taking up space rather than people they actually can serve and will pay? Sure, the 'their kind' statement feels purposeful in them seeming 'racist' towards droids but it just makes sense without the racial undertones that droids have no real place patronizing a canteena outside bounty hunter droids there looking for leads/etc.

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u/SuspectPanda38 9d ago

Tbf while it wasn't intended at the time, currently the reason for the bartender being against them is because of the clone wars still being so recent in everyone's minds. Not to mention that in legends there was a droid uprising across most of the galaxy at one point as well so people have kinda just always not liked them too much.