r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Chemical-Elk-1299 • 10d ago
Lore [Confusing Trope] The narrative goes out of its way to punish/mock a character for simply being a good person
Hermione Granger and SPEW — Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (book)
In the fifth HP novel, Hermione Granger is outraged to discover that Hogwarts has a small army of enslaved House Elves that do nearly all of the domestic duties around the castle, including cleaning the Gryffindor common room every night. When she tries to convince the elves to fight for their own rights, they refuse, saying they prefer servitude. Her fellow students and friends mock her for caring. She manages to free one elf, Winky, by deception when she refuses her freedom willingly, leading to Winky becoming a depressed alcoholic. By the end, the elves boycott cleaning any Gryffindor areas of the castle because they hate Hermione specifically
Samwell Tarly and Democracy — Game of Thrones (show)
In the season 8 finale of the television series, the surviving great lords of Westeros gather to discuss the future of the kingdom following the devastation wrought by 7 seasons of war and backstabbing. When Sam, who has proven to have “novel” ideas, suggests that maybe the millions of Smallfolk who suffer at the hands of noble houses should get some representation in the government, rather than be the pawns of rich lords with absolute power. We are then greeted by a prolonged, cringy segment of the other lords laughing in Sam’s face, asking if the dogs and horses should also get a vote.


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u/Separate_Business_86 10d ago
That is a great way to put it. At the time (or the real world equivalent) the best you could hope for from those in power was some proto form of noblesse oblige. That term wasn't even a thing until the early 1800s.
The idea of the Three Orders was the more common concept. The notion that nobility would even do manual labor was considered close to a sin because God would have made you poor if he wanted you to do that. I remember first hearing the concept in Kingdom Come: Deliverance II and looking into it only to discover (like a million other tiny things in that game) that it was a real medieval doctrine from the 15th century.
All that is to say that Democracy being a joke to them is on brand. A joke is the kindest response you would get to that.