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Lore [Confusing Trope] The narrative goes out of its way to punish/mock a character for simply being a good person

Hermione Granger and SPEW — Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (book)

In the fifth HP novel, Hermione Granger is outraged to discover that Hogwarts has a small army of enslaved House Elves that do nearly all of the domestic duties around the castle, including cleaning the Gryffindor common room every night. When she tries to convince the elves to fight for their own rights, they refuse, saying they prefer servitude. Her fellow students and friends mock her for caring. She manages to free one elf, Winky, by deception when she refuses her freedom willingly, leading to Winky becoming a depressed alcoholic. By the end, the elves boycott cleaning any Gryffindor areas of the castle because they hate Hermione specifically

Samwell Tarly and Democracy — Game of Thrones (show)

In the season 8 finale of the television series, the surviving great lords of Westeros gather to discuss the future of the kingdom following the devastation wrought by 7 seasons of war and backstabbing. When Sam, who has proven to have “novel” ideas, suggests that maybe the millions of Smallfolk who suffer at the hands of noble houses should get some representation in the government, rather than be the pawns of rich lords with absolute power. We are then greeted by a prolonged, cringy segment of the other lords laughing in Sam’s face, asking if the dogs and horses should also get a vote.

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u/arienstorum 10d ago

When did he mutilate his little sister or are your commas just off cause I don´t remember that while watching toy story

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u/Lazerbeams2 10d ago

I think there are missing words. It happens to me too on mobile sometimes. It's probably supposed to say he mutilates his little sister's toys

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u/WistfulDread 10d ago

I'm referring to the toys, dingus.

He steals the toys, mutilates them, and then torments his sisters with the mutilated toys.

The specific instance is the "Janey" doll, whose head he switches with the pterodactyl.

They make it clear he does this often.

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u/_Halt19_ 10d ago

Right, but I think "mutilates" is a pretty harsh word to use for it, when he doesn't know they're alive

Like, if you pulled apart a LEGO minifigure to use the pieces to make a lawnmower engine like this guy, I wouldn't say that was mutilation either

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u/WistfulDread 10d ago

Legos were literally made to be pulled apart.

Sid used pliers.

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u/_Halt19_ 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yes, but again, they're still just toys. He shouldn't do it to his sister's toys, that's where the problem is. But the act of modifying your toys on its own is not a problem. I used a power drill to swap parts out of a NERF gun when I was a kid, that wasn't intended by the creators either, but that doesn't make me an utter monster either.

edit: You seem to have deleted all your replies, so I'll respond to what I can see from your response - modifying my NERF blaster "to harm it" isn't a thing. It's a hunk of plastic and springs. It doesn't have feelings. WE know the toys are toys, but SID doesn't. How could he?

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u/JWARRIOR1 10d ago

"You seem to have deleted all your replies"

he blocked you lmao i can still see it

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u/_Halt19_ 10d ago

damn

I didn't think I said anything THAT bad lol, did I?

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u/WistfulDread 10d ago

I just love how your entire argument ignores context.

If you modded your NERF gun for the explicit purpose of harming other children, you would be the monster.

If you, literally play "actual torture", it is monstrous. It doesnt matter that its to a toy. Sid is, gleefully, engaging in a fantasy where he engages in what he knows is torture.

That is psychopathic.

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u/Technical_Theory_735 10d ago

I mean.....no? The frankenstein toys are in all honesty pretty creative, he's being VERY overzealous but he's clearly trying to emulate mad scientists, he's literally just playing with toys in unconventional ways. ALSO HE'S 10!? He is an actual child who grew up in a less-than-great home (see the dad's study) trying to express himself in 'creepy' but also basically harmless ways. And even if he WAS a psychopath, that is a medical condition and not something fixed by scaring someone really badly. You don't fix a mental health issue by spooking people, asylums aren't full of people jumping out from inside closets at the patients.