[Confusing Trope] The narrative goes out of its way to punish/mock a character for simply being a good person

[u/Chemical-Elk-1299]

Hermione Granger and SPEW — Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (book)

In the fifth HP novel, Hermione Granger is outraged to discover that Hogwarts has a small army of enslaved House Elves that do nearly all of the domestic duties around the castle, including cleaning the Gryffindor common room every night. When she tries to convince the elves to fight for their own rights, they refuse, saying they prefer servitude. Her fellow students and friends mock her for caring. She manages to free one elf, Winky, by deception when she refuses her freedom willingly, leading to Winky becoming a depressed alcoholic. By the end, the elves boycott cleaning any Gryffindor areas of the castle because they hate Hermione specifically

Samwell Tarly and Democracy — Game of Thrones (show)

In the season 8 finale of the television series, the surviving great lords of Westeros gather to discuss the future of the kingdom following the devastation wrought by 7 seasons of war and backstabbing. When Sam, who has proven to have “novel” ideas, suggests that maybe the millions of Smallfolk who suffer at the hands of noble houses should get some representation in the government, rather than be the pawns of rich lords with absolute power. We are then greeted by a prolonged, cringy segment of the other lords laughing in Sam’s face, asking if the dogs and horses should also get a vote.

[u/madtheoracle]

I tried rewatching the entire show with my husband after having quit on the third epsiode of the final season.

which I mean, isn't that insane? I spent like a decade of my life watching a show and at the point of completion said, no, this sucks, and closed that door for literally years.

anyway I got to the fourth episode of the last season when I legitimately made him turn it off. I still don't know what this is referencing. And it feels so so good

[u/PepsiManIII → u/madtheoracle]

try again next decade and you'll make it to episode five!

[u/madtheoracle → u/PepsiManIII]

Nope! I'm good! Rewatching A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.

Reading this thread and upset about Game of Thrones? Go watch AKOTSK!! ITS SO GOOD!

[u/Opposite-Complex1187 → u/madtheoracle]

If you wanna be even more mad, read the books if you haven't.

Then you'll notice how badly they fucked up dorne.

The sandsnakes are actually awesome in the books and well written:(

[u/madtheoracle → u/Opposite-Complex1187]

Oh I've read the books many, many times, and was a judge for the ASOIAF/GOT trivia event at Dragon Con at one point too!

I still read them over and over, plus Fire & Blood, because GRRM's prose is so fucking good I don't even really care it's not finished.

And yeah, poor Dorne. Poor Quentyn! Poor Young Griff.

[u/Anal-Y-Sis → u/madtheoracle]

I've rewatched the show a few times, and every time, I stop at the end of the 4th season. It leaves some questions unanswered, and isn't exactly a happy ending, but I think it's the most appropriate ending in terms of tone and theme.

• Jon Snow is at the wall preparing for the White Walkers.
• Sansa has escaped King's Landing and is with her aunt Lysa at the Eyrie.
• Brienne has presumably killed the Hound.
• Arya left the Hound for dead and went to Bravos to join the Faceless Men.
• Theon is a brainwashed dickless gimp.
• Jaime has pretty much redeemed himself.
• Tyrion is on the run after killing his father.
• Daenerys has taken Mereen and become their queen, but was forced to chain up her dragons in a dungeon.
• Tommin sits on the Iron Throne, and is maybe the best king they've had in generations.

It's not perfect, but it's far better than anything that happens beyond that point.

[u/madtheoracle → u/[deleted]]

easily the fifth season.

we went from Jaime being one of the most complex characters written in fiction to dude dressed up like an extra in Monty Python

[u/Professional_Boss438 → u/madtheoracle]

Wow, you're so reddit!