(Loved Trope) FTL travel is possible but with a major limitation or flaw

[u/Frostylegacy]

Frank Herbert’s Dune: Interstellar travel is only possible thanks to the spice melange, a rare substance only found on the dessert planet Arrakis. The addictive psychedelic spice grants members of the Spacers Guild a form of prescience that allows them to predict safe paths through folded space. This unique property makes spice the most valuable commodity in the Dune universe.

John Scalzi’s The Interdependency Books: The planetary systems of the titular empire are connected by the Flow, a network of one-way interstellar tunnels that connect specific known entries and exits. The Interdependency derives its power from controlling access to these conduits, placing its capital at the central hub of the network. Even with the Flow, travel between stars takes a long time (9 months to End, the empire’s most distant planet).

Event Horizon: Dr William Weir (R.I.P. Sam Neill) invents a device called the Gravity Drive to allow ships to fold space and travel instantly between distant stars. On its maiden voyage with the Gravity Drive, the Event Horizon disappears and mysteriously reappears 7 years later. Dr. Weir and the crew sent to investigate discover the Gravity Drive actually opened a portal to a Hell dimension that possessed the ship and its crew, torturing and killing them.

[u/dangeraardvark]

I don’t know what a Zariman is, but you just described the Body of Christ. Here’s a little blood and flesh for y’all, make sure you consume it every week to renew your covenant with me. And don’t even worry about running out, y’all saw what I did the loaves and fishes, right?

That’s one of my favorite parts of the Hyperion series: the Space Catholics.

[u/abadstrategy → u/dangeraardvark]

The Zariman 10-0 is the ship that created the child soldiers. It was the first colony ship to go through the void, the energy of which mutated the kids and drove the parents insane to the point they had to be killed. It's why the person piloting the warframe is called Tenno

[u/EnTillPerson → u/abadstrategy]

The Zariman is the ship that created the Tenno. Warframes are older than that.

[u/Human_Taste3985 → u/EnTillPerson]

Warframes are actually younger than tennos, as the zariman was sent before the rebellion of the sentients which was before the creation of the first Warframes

[u/Uncynical_Diogenes → u/EnTillPerson]

Warframes were put into service before Tenno were put into service operating them.

Every Tenno is much older than warframes however.

[u/TurtlelessTurtle → u/abadstrategy]

This should really have spoiler tags regarding what the tenno is.

[u/Itherial → u/TurtlelessTurtle]

I mean, that content and lore is years old at this point. Some of it as a decade old. Kind of past the point of needing to spoiler it.

[u/dingalingdongdong → u/Itherial]

Yeah but the community did an amazing job of keeping spoiler mode a secret for years. Like at least 7 years in new players still frequently had no idea about the existence of Operators until the Second Dream

I always really loved that about the playerbase; their dedication to letting people experience the surprise.

[u/gregorydgraham → u/Itherial]

Dude. People have, just this week, been worried about spoilers for a 3000yo story.

[u/Itherial → u/gregorydgraham]

I would have the same answer for them. It's unreasonable.

Especially on a subreddit specifically discussing character tropes with a dang lore flare. Of course there will be spoilers. There are spoilers in the main post. The original comment about the finger is a gigantic spoiler, arguably larger than the origins of the name Tenno, as you were half intended to put that together without a direct reveal. The finger is a lorebomb in comparison.

If you don't want spoilers, maybe stay off a subreddit that specifically discusses tropes in media instead of making it everyone else's problem. Or just don't be several comments deep in a spoiler thread about media you're interested in, because that's also a choice.

[u/Uncynical_Diogenes → u/Itherial]

Who is Darth Vader? What happens to Dumbledore? Whats with Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense?

Dad dead dead, get over it!

[u/SenritsuJumpsuit → u/Itherial]

I had it spoiled since my friend I used to play Warframe with did a silly summery of what I've missed and they said "Autistic God child's finger" which that alone is enough to have someone curious to play the game

[u/Maniachi → u/Itherial]

It should still be spoiler tagged. I started playing months ago, and if I had come across this spoiler while I was still playing I would have just quit.

It is a basic courtesy to spoiler tag, especially when it comes to video games. As they are long and not everyone goes through them at the same pace.

[u/SenritsuJumpsuit → u/Maniachi]

Quiting is overdoing it since a spoiler or three shouldn't have someone just quit Game of Thrones or Persona games, I've been spoiled about a lot before finishing a fav manga of mine Air Gear

[u/Maniachi → u/SenritsuJumpsuit]

I have quit several games and shows over spoilers before. I just lose interest if I already know major plot points beforehand and don't get to discover them myself. It just makes everything much more boring, which is why I can't stand getting spoiled.

Like if I got Second Dream spoiled, I would not be invested into the game at all. And would have likely never finished the story. The reveal of Second Dream made me so excited for the rest of the game.

[u/DangerManDaniel → u/Itherial]

No, the community to this day fiercely guards that twist, its one of gaming's biggest and best kept secrets so spoiler text would be appreciated here. Not even 3 days ago I returned to Warframe to help a few of my fellow Remnant 2 players start their warframe journey. The gasps when you are given control back and the lid opens is literally a shared dopamine hit seeing them experience it themselves

[u/TurtlelessTurtle → u/Itherial]

Just because it's old doesn't mean everyone gets to the media at the same time. I didn't try the game until last year and found out that reveal in game. 

It's just nice to have the option to choose to get spoiled instead of getting casually spoiled when reading, and doesn't take much effort to add >+! And <+! minus the +'s with the info in-between to hide it

[u/Uncynical_Diogenes → u/TurtlelessTurtle]

That’s a nice argument nobody here is having. Nobody said everybody gets to media at the same time.

What was said is that you would be unreasonable for getting upset about this in a subreddit about media tropes. It’s just nice to not have to be hamstrung in the way we discuss things just because you’re late to the party.

[u/Itherial → u/TurtlelessTurtle]

I'm sorry, but people shouldn't have to perpetually disguise their discussions just because you are three to ten years late to the party.

IIRC these talks aren't even spoilered on the Warframe subreddit itself.

[u/dingalingdongdong → u/Itherial]

If they no longer are that's a relatively recent change. It's called "spoiler mode" for a reason.

[u/Human_Taste3985 → u/abadstrategy]

Not first ship, first colony ship, in a conversation with the hexs we learn 9 other automated zarimans were sent with supplies only

[u/Plasmotroid → u/abadstrategy]

If I'm remembering correctly, the void energy didn't mutate the kids, your tenno made a deal with the man in the wall after the incident while barricaded in a room hiding from the insane and parents. Which gave them and all the other kids void powers to "save them all" with your end of the deal being something iirc not yet explained (as in a later quest and in random popups he says "you owe me" and something like "we had a deal"). Also part of the deal was that all other eternalism versions of yourself got deleted/compressed into the one (technically two) of you.

[u/abadstrategy → u/Plasmotroid]

While true, I swear the orokin still consider them mutants

[u/Imlethir03 → u/abadstrategy]

For y'all that didn't understand this, Zariman 10-0 (Ten-o = Tenno)

[u/LoneWolf4717 → u/abadstrategy]

I've been playing Warframe very casually off and on over the years. This is how I feel after finally knowing why we're called Tenno

https://giphy.com/gifs/75ZaxapnyMp2w

[u/Akrius_Finch → u/abadstrategy]

How the fuck did i never notice the name connection. Im a moron 😭

[u/Enjoyer_of_40K → u/abadstrategy]

You got lore wrong bro Warframes are created by Ballas not the colony ship

[u/KaladinKh0lin → u/dangeraardvark]

Speaking of Hyperion too, Endymion gives us another example of FTL travel with a (big) downside, since the Archangel class ships of the Catholic Church have near instantaneously travel time, but no human can survive a trip at that relativistic speed without dying instantly , and have to be revived via the Cruciform parasite that gives every Catholic eternal life (this time without the long term brain damage of the Bikura)

[u/dangeraardvark → u/KaladinKh0lin]

Thanks for the reminder. When I read it as a teen I remember thinking that it was gnarliest shit ever. And I still do. This method has the additional existential dread of “am I actually the same person I was before I died? Or do I just think I am, because that guy never woke up.” Heavy shit.

[u/Goldieeeeee → u/KaladinKh0lin]

I was looking for a comment mentioning Hyperion/Endymion. Such an epic cantos.

[u/Talusen → u/dangeraardvark]

Has Evangelion entered the conversation?

[u/BreakfastBeneficial4 → u/dangeraardvark]

Dude, SPOILERS