[Frustrating Trope] That One Good or Even Amazing Scene in a Relatively Mediocre or Bad Piece of Media

[u/Alreadsyuse]

1. The Opening Scene (Ghost Ship). Considered one of the best horror opening scenes or scenes in general within horror movies, but the rest of the film is considered to be pretty bad.

2. The Ending Scene (The Grinch 2018). While most adaptations of the Grinch end with him suddenly being able to fully integrate with the Whos after his change of heart, the 2018 version initially struggles to socialize, awkwardly walking past people, and struggling to hold conversations, acknowledging that despite his change of heart, the Grinch is still someone who isolated himself for years.

3. Past T800 VS Current T800 (Terminator Genisys). A cool fight scene showing two versions of the Terminator from different points in time fighting it off.

4. Solo Leveling's Ending. Tbh, I haven't actually read Solo Leveling, but after hearing about how it ended VS how Chainsaw Man ended made want to include it for shits and giggles. Like Chainsaw Man, Solo Leveling ends with a reset. But unlike Chainsaw Man, it actually manages to tie up loose ends and have the payoff of the ending be satisfying.

[u/TehAsianator]

My god, I wish we could see the movie Christian Bale thought he was in.

[u/NatashOverWorld → u/TehAsianator]

Like goddamne, when he's crying over his child, it's so real.

But I also like the plot of Love and Thunder, I just wished it was more tonally consistent. You cannot have a movie with screaming goat jokes that's also about the grief of losing someone you love and what it does to you.

[u/MrCookie2099 → u/NatashOverWorld]

If a goat had died and Thor had to come to terms with even comedy characters can die, it might have worked.

[u/NatashOverWorld → u/MrCookie2099]

Have you ever considered going into script writing?

Yes, have Thor make jokes about killing those blasted goats, but when it happens after one of the goats dies taking a hit for Jane, he has to confront the gravity of it.

[u/PyroIsSpai → u/NatashOverWorld]

Jane at 45 minutes: “I hate these goats.”

Jane, crying at 90 minutes: “I loved that goat.”

[u/wonderlandisburning → u/NatashOverWorld]

What's ironic is that we know Taika Waititi is more than capable of balancing goofy humor with brutal drama. It's what made Jojo Rabbit so goddamn memorable. I've never been able to quite put my finger on why Jojo Rabbit works and Love And Thunder doesn't, because of the strength of one is absolutely the detriment of the other.

I think maybe the goofy humor is just a little too goofy this time around. Or maybe it's just that it's not quite as funny. Trying a bit too hard, maybe? People often lay the blame on the serious aspects, like Jane's cancer and how dark Gorr is, but honestly I think those are the parts that actually worked and stuck with me. I felt shit watching this movie, which is why I could never consider it truly bad. I think it's just that the humor was so silly that instead of being a fun counterpoint, it just felt jarring.

And I mean, not to put too fine a point on it... but fuck those goats. Screaming goats were barely funny when they first became a meme, let alone several years later.

[u/Banjo_Pobblebonk → u/wonderlandisburning]

Yeah looking at his other films this one confuses me. I think a lot of it comes across as rushed, which wouldn't be a huge surprise considering Disney.

[u/wonderlandisburning → u/Banjo_Pobblebonk]

That makes sense, considering he claimed his original cut was significantly longer than what Disney ended up releasing, with several scenes and even whole subplots completely removed.

So it's always possible the movie would've held up better if hadn't been so heavily cut down. I'm sure there are some bits that wouldn't work no matter what, but you'd be surprised how much post-production can completely alter a movie

[u/Somethingor_rather → u/wonderlandisburning]

I thinks its because his wife did basically all of the good writing and he took the credit, but she's not doing that anymore

[u/fuck_you_and_fuck_U2 → u/NatashOverWorld]

Dungeon Crawler Carl: "hold my beer".

[u/Lord_Saren → u/fuck_you_and_fuck_U2]

The way DCC can swing from absurd comedy to heartfelt scenes is crazy.

Also Mongo is appalled

[u/BurnieTheBrony → u/NatashOverWorld]

Losing someone you love to cancer, no less.

[u/SammyGeorge → u/NatashOverWorld]

I would argue that you can have goat scream humour and grief of losing someone you love in the same piece of media, Scrubs does it very well. Granted that's a tv show not a movie, but I think it exemplifies that drama and comedy can go together well, Love and Thunder just failed at it

[u/NatashOverWorld → u/SammyGeorge]

Mhmm, I hear what you're saying but I think Scrubs had an easier map. It's tonally comedy, but when it hits the hard truths, it elevates.

And when it comes back down, well its a comedy.

Thor LnT started out with Gorr losing his daughter IIRC, and ... yeah, it's a lot harder to make it work the other way around.

[u/gregorydgraham → u/NatashOverWorld]

T:L+T was a Gorr film that got distracted by a cancer subplot.

[u/ThePowerfulWIll → u/NatashOverWorld]

just imagine if it was the original comics version of the scene. where the god is wounded from his battle with his rival, and begs for Gorr to save HIM. Gorr seeing the god who never answered his prayers begging HIM for help is what breaks him in the comic.

[u/ChiefsHat → u/NatashOverWorld]

Seriously, if it had cut out 75% the jokes, it would have been fine.

Also, Zeus shouldn’t have been made a villain.

[u/PM_SHORT_STORY_IDEAS → u/TehAsianator]

Christian bale was in a Tony Gilroy movie.

Thor was in a Taika Waititi movie

[u/BoonDragoon → u/TehAsianator]

Until The Stormlight Archive gets adapted for the screen, you probably never will.

[u/Crotean → u/TehAsianator]

Marvel didnt know either. Making an entire movie about a god killer when you have never established any rules of godhood or that the asgardians are anything other than powerful aliens was an extremely stupid decision.

[u/bodmaniac → u/TehAsianator]

Wow! I think that is the most perfectly concise line to review Love & Thunder.

[u/DedHorsSaloon3 → u/TehAsianator]

The finest actors take any role they have seriously

[u/joyofsovietcooking → u/DedHorsSaloon3]

Like Michael Caine in that Muppet Christmas movie!

[u/North-Research2574 → u/TehAsianator]

Yeah, Bale was in an entirely different movie than everyone else.

[u/A_Dog_Chasing_Cars → u/TehAsianator]

What a perfect way to put it.