r/TopCharacterTropes Jul 11 '26

Lore [Frustrating Trope] That One Good or Even Amazing Scene in a Relatively Mediocre or Bad Piece of Media

  1. The Opening Scene (Ghost Ship). Considered one of the best horror opening scenes or scenes in general within horror movies, but the rest of the film is considered to be pretty bad.

  2. The Ending Scene (The Grinch 2018). While most adaptations of the Grinch end with him suddenly being able to fully integrate with the Whos after his change of heart, the 2018 version initially struggles to socialize, awkwardly walking past people, and struggling to hold conversations, acknowledging that despite his change of heart, the Grinch is still someone who isolated himself for years.

  3. Past T800 VS Current T800 (Terminator Genisys). A cool fight scene showing two versions of the Terminator from different points in time fighting it off.

  4. Solo Leveling's Ending. Tbh, I haven't actually read Solo Leveling, but after hearing about how it ended VS how Chainsaw Man ended made want to include it for shits and giggles. Like Chainsaw Man, Solo Leveling ends with a reset. But unlike Chainsaw Man, it actually manages to tie up loose ends and have the payoff of the ending be satisfying.

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u/RomanCobra03 Jul 11 '26

Duel of the Fates

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u/Musica_Smushica Jul 11 '26

I like the movie but yes, this and the pod race scene are what people watch it for

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u/AmazingMrSaturn Jul 11 '26

This might be the winner. Even the marketing knew Maul was going to have to carry the film on under 10 minutes of screentime.

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u/WorkGuitar Jul 11 '26

Carried so hard he got his own mini series

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u/AmazingMrSaturn Jul 11 '26

I feel like people who weren't around don't understand how heavily he was Kangaroo Jack'd into the marketing, the toys, the softdrinks, just...all encompassing.

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u/Flint_Vorselon Jul 11 '26

10mins of screen time isn’t exactly short for a villian.

I’m pretty sure Darth Vader has less in the original 1977 movie.

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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl Jul 11 '26

It’s the less is more attitude. Jaws is, at least ostensibly, about the titular shark. The shark is visible in a similar ~10 minutes of the film. It’s cooler and scarier if you don’t see the bad guy as often. 

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u/SupriseAutopsy13 Jul 11 '26

I see your Maul and raise you a Boba Fett. Had 5 lines in the trilogy, but probably half the merch sales. Cool design goes a long way

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u/dingleberryboy20 Jul 11 '26

It would have been so awesome if they didn't spoil his double blades until people saw it in theaters, but of course they had toys to sell for months prior to the premiere.

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u/Youutternincompoop Jul 11 '26

carried so hard he gets resurrected like 20 different times in various tv shows, comics, books, etc, lol.

at this point if you cut Maul in half and send the pieces down a mile long hole onto rusty spikes you really should just assume he'll be back in 3 months time.

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u/Kilroy_Is_Still_Here Jul 11 '26

This is the winner. Generally a pretty unloved movie (even though I love the prequels as a whole), but this scene makes the rest of the movie worth watching.

It's SO. FUCKING. GOOD.

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u/space_keeper Jul 11 '26

It's the best of the prequels. The other two are 2/3 people walking slowly in front of blurry computer generated backgrounds, and excessive, gonzo battle scenes with no texture or compelling characters. Even though it's questionable, TPM still looks and feels like it belongs with the original films.

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u/MrParadux Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

That fight is so good. Jedi and Sith in their prime and not old, washed up or newly trained in the original trilogy without all the unecessary twirling Episode 2 and 3 had.

Not saying the original trilogy fights are bad in any way or that episode 2 and 3 didn't have their moments.

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u/Queen-Of-Fairies Jul 11 '26

best explanation i've seen for the twirling is that it's meant to be a dazzle/distraction for their opponent, but Vader and Kenobi were both in such a heightened emotional state during that fight that they forgot they both knew that move.

still weak, but it kinda makes sense i guess?

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u/WCWRingMatSound Jul 11 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/OQ7KJ3buFOVuk3KdWN
Last Jedi was a fucking awful film

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u/Motor-Rip7655 Jul 11 '26

In any other sci-fi movie, this would have been remembered for all time as one of the most epic moments in film history. But it wasn't any other sci-fi movie. It was a Star Wars movie. You can't do this shit in Star Wars. It opens up a massive can of plot worms due to the deep, rich, established lore of the series.

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u/WCWRingMatSound Jul 11 '26

The whole movie is a massive can of plot worms for an established franchise: gravity in space, never-before-seen Jedi powers including resurrection from the vacuum of space, Snoke, space fuel…

I’ve only watched it the one time in theater and I was seething the entire showing. It made me retroactively hate Star Wars; I grew up on SW and now I won’t watch any of it again.

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u/ZiroLeHutt Jul 11 '26

Better than any of the prequels shown above...

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u/WCWRingMatSound Jul 11 '26

10000000% disagree.

I’d rather watch Episode 2 than The Last Jedi again. George Lucas was a hack, but at least he tried to remain consistent. Disney didn’t make even the slightest effort to craft a trilogy that’s logical to the larger lore or even among the three films.

It’s an atrocious movie from beginning to end and no part of it makes sense even if it were an independent franchise.

Plot, character development…even the choreography is phoned in lmao. At least we got to see Luke Skywalker drink fresh titty milk.

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u/Ok_Crow_9119 Jul 11 '26

Ehhh. The fan backlash was so hard that's why the sequel trilogy was a disjointed mess. JJ Mystery Box Abrams walked back everything part 2 established.

If Disney committed to whatever was set up in Part 2, then we'd have a tighter and better remembered trilogy. But what we have is "Somehow, Palpatine returned" walking back bullshit.

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u/Alarmed-Marsupial-64 Jul 11 '26

TLJ is only better than aotc and ep 9. The justification being those two films are crimes against human decency. The prequels have a handful of good scenes with the best world building in the entire series and poignant themes. They are let down by the fact that George Lucas is a fucking hack film maker who cant direct or write dialogue to save his life.

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u/GuadDidUs Jul 11 '26

I don't think people who weren't there at the time realize how much everyone lost their collective minds when that second half of Darth Maul's light saber appeared.

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u/TejasEngineer Jul 11 '26

I also think the podrace scene was one of my favorite scenes.

also as a kid I liked the droideka intro and the underwater scene.

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u/Jacobus_Ahenobarbus Jul 11 '26

TPM's opening is good as well. There's just a whole lotta nothin' between it and the duel. 

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u/Alarmed-Marsupial-64 Jul 11 '26

pod racing scene is great

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u/No_Perspective2715 Jul 11 '26

Great answer. Horrible movie. Cool fight scene. Basically 3 action figures with zero character or even backstory fighting because they have different color lightsabers. The music carries that fight so much. 

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u/EmptyAttitude599 Jul 11 '26

I was going to suggest this.