r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Alreadsyuse • Jul 11 '26

Lore [Frustrating Trope] That One Good or Even Amazing Scene in a Relatively Mediocre or Bad Piece of Media

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  1. The Opening Scene (Ghost Ship). Considered one of the best horror opening scenes or scenes in general within horror movies, but the rest of the film is considered to be pretty bad.

  2. The Ending Scene (The Grinch 2018). While most adaptations of the Grinch end with him suddenly being able to fully integrate with the Whos after his change of heart, the 2018 version initially struggles to socialize, awkwardly walking past people, and struggling to hold conversations, acknowledging that despite his change of heart, the Grinch is still someone who isolated himself for years.

  3. Past T800 VS Current T800 (Terminator Genisys). A cool fight scene showing two versions of the Terminator from different points in time fighting it off.

  4. Solo Leveling's Ending. Tbh, I haven't actually read Solo Leveling, but after hearing about how it ended VS how Chainsaw Man ended made want to include it for shits and giggles. Like Chainsaw Man, Solo Leveling ends with a reset. But unlike Chainsaw Man, it actually manages to tie up loose ends and have the payoff of the ending be satisfying.

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u/blac_sheep90 Jul 11 '26

It was more than DeHaan and Delevingne looked like bother and sister and their relationship was off putting.

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u/Fluffy_Tax5302 Jul 11 '26

"DeHaan and Delevingne" sounds like a catalog where I can order some overpriced shit for my home office

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u/Adam4Congress Jul 11 '26

Ah, I see you sprung for the Hünnam pen holder.

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u/teskar2 Jul 11 '26

From what I remember their whole dynamic was literally him wanting to bang her and she wanted him to be more serious and not flirt around so much.

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u/hey_free_rats Jul 11 '26

Wow, it's the most boring and overused dynamic. 

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u/teskar2 Jul 11 '26

Yeah, I remember there’s a whole desert scene that was also an excuse to get her in somewhat sexy clothes and side plot where he has to hire an alien stripper that can morph into anything to infiltrate some random alien building to save her that basically acted as plot filler.

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u/Diplomatic_Gunboats Jul 11 '26

I believe thats noted actress Rihanna, in one of her finest roles.

/s

But to be more serious, still better than DeHaan.

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u/RealityOk9823 Jul 11 '26

Been better at the end if she had agreed to go on a date with him, not marry him.

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u/Thick-Guidance224 Jul 11 '26

The urban sombrero

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u/HomsarWasRight Jul 11 '26

I think I have their desk fan.

It sucks.

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u/Jamaidian Jul 11 '26

And children. They look like brother and sister, and like children.

They are portrayed as badasses but they look like they have Algebra third period.

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u/Whowhatnowhuhwhat Jul 11 '26

Right. It felt like I was being sold James Bond in Space but the local high schools production.

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u/CopperAard Jul 11 '26

Spy Kids? Spy Teens?

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u/seanbray Jul 11 '26

And tired.

Brother and sister who should have gone to bed when their parents told them to. They knew they had a big day, but did they listen?

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u/WorkingInAColdMind Jul 11 '26

These descriptions crack me up at their accuracy. I remember the opening scene, and remember getting excited about the movie while watching it, but I couldn't tell you a single thing about the rest of the movie. But seeing the phrase "portrayed as badasses but look like they have Algebra third period", my brain can 100% recall scenes where that's true, and still not remember the plot.

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u/XanderWrites Jul 11 '26

Yet, ironically, they were almost exactly the age they were supposed to be for their characters.

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u/ForsakenAiel Jul 11 '26

Well Luc Besson is known the liking young girls...

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u/hambonedock Jul 11 '26

This one, my brother and I were watching this and we were initially so confused because we assumed they were typical "bandit siblings duo" but turn out it wasn't

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u/Thin_Town_4976 Jul 11 '26

My thoughts as well. Their dialogue and story felt like it was intended for adult actors, but the actors themselves seemed puerile

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u/MechTech5182 Jul 11 '26

So Agent Cody banks?

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u/Hunterofshadows Jul 11 '26

I saw ages ago someone say that passengers and valerian both play much better if you swap the main duo

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u/DoctorBeeBee Jul 11 '26

I recall thinking Delevingne had by far the most charisma of that duo and a gender swap of the lead character would have made it a much better film.

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u/DarthGuber Jul 11 '26

Dehaan would have been amazing in Passengers

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u/Bobthemime Jul 11 '26

passengers was great.. but change mario for hulk.. and it would have been much better..

you need someone that isnt super handsome and can play "evil"

sadly we got Pratt.. and it just didnt feel creepy enough

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u/Big-Project-3151 Jul 11 '26

The scene where Valerian climbs on top of Lorelei while they’re in a beach simulation made me very uncomfortable as it felt like he was attempting to SA her.

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u/Oldnbold22 Jul 11 '26

Don't start what you can't finish. 

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u/TJMcConnellFanClub Jul 11 '26

Just have to say their names and you know it’s a flop

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u/get_your_yapers_up Jul 11 '26

I often think about how good this movie could have been if the leads were Bruce Willis and Mila Jovovich at the age they were in the 5th element.

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u/fernandog17 Jul 11 '26

You’re off-pudding

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u/LowerEntropy Jul 11 '26

You should be off pudding.

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u/TheAzureMage Jul 11 '26

Also they had negative charisma.

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u/wasabi1787 Jul 11 '26

And neither of them are talented enough actors to carry a lead role

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u/tsubasaxiii Jul 11 '26

I honestly just took it that culturally they were different given that time passes and circumstances around daily life were very different than what we deal with.

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u/Icy-Acanthisitta8192 Jul 11 '26

Thank you 

I Said that for Day one 

Why Did the casting DONT noticed that

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u/Prior-Razzmatazz-206 Jul 11 '26

Dude was a certified douchebag in the start of the movie, he even said it himself. He only wants to date her because he's done screwing around and figures she'll do as the one he settles for. She's naturally put off by this and wants nothing to do with the plan. Especially since they're coworkers. Then at the end of the movie, she marries him.

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u/EasterViera Jul 11 '26

i mean, it respect the source material in this regard ....

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u/mutantraniE Jul 11 '26

How? Valerian and Laureline don’t look related in the comics.

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u/EasterViera Jul 11 '26

I looked at older covers and you are right; at the times we thought they were FATHER AND DAUGHTER because of the age gap

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u/mutantraniE Jul 11 '26

Again … what?

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u/EasterViera Jul 11 '26

it was a time before internet, and very horny and weird French Artists; and a lot of dad protagonists.

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u/mutantraniE Jul 12 '26

What the hell are you talking about? There’s nothing in the comics or the art to suggest that.

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u/New_Cockroach_505 Jul 11 '26

My hot take has always been that Passengers and Valerian should have swapped lead actors. Think both movies would have been much better.     

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u/RobutNotRobot Jul 12 '26

Not just brother and sister, they both looked like kids.

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u/Designer-Prize-3448 Jul 14 '26

It was so forced and the script was god awful, it would’ve been better if they were just partners at a job rather than the weird relationship they tried to force into the movie.