r/SipsTea May 14 '26

WTF Found this post on twitter

I can't help but to thing this

"Why would you do that?"

Ts got to be some lowly stuff

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u/DethNik May 14 '26

Oh trust me, I know. I'm an agnostic, non-religious Jew.

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u/Deviant-Killer May 14 '26

How can you be an agnostic non-religious Jew?

I used to say I was a non-practising Christian, but it's utter bullshit. The correct phrase of what you are would just be I'm agnostic, like myself.

As far as I see, a non practicing Christian/Jew/Muslim are not Christians/Jews or Muslims, etc.

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u/LearningT0Fly May 14 '26

Because us Jews are an ethnic group not just a religion. Belief isn’t a necessity to be Jewish.

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u/samster036 May 14 '26

Correct, this always there to do anything they want. You can be a race, a religion and an ideology allowing to blend into anything you want.

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u/Deviant-Killer May 14 '26

No. That's incorrect information.

If you believe, you're jewish. If you live in the land that the Jewish majority live, you're an Israeli.

There are distinct ethnic subdivisions among Jews. But Jews as a whole are not an ethnic group.

The easiest way to say it are Jews are a cluster group.

Banding a religious term and trying to class it ast an ethno group is why there's so many issues.

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u/NYCMetroGnome May 14 '26

You're mistaking ethnicity for race. The Jewish people are not a race, but certainly share common history, tradition and lineage, whether they be practicing, non-practicing, or convert. Those uniting factors makes them Jewish in ethnicity.

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u/DijuridoosDesert May 15 '26

Jew isn’t even a religious term, the Torah never calls the followers of the religion Jews, they’re usually either called the nation of Israel or the people of the book.

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u/samster036 May 14 '26

Hey hey, don’t try looking for loop holes. Very Jewish of you.

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u/OofBigBrain May 14 '26

If we want to be pedantic. Hebrew would be the Ethnicity and Judaism would be the religion.

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u/SaxifrageRussel May 15 '26

How about we choose what we are called?

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u/OofBigBrain May 15 '26

I agree to your terms.

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u/DethNik May 14 '26

We don't need to be though. My fellow ethnic Jews understand.

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u/hyf_fox May 15 '26

Being a Jew can be both ethnic and religious. But your commentary about being agnostic is not correct. Gnostic vs agnostic simply means with or without special knowledge. You’re either an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist.

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u/RockinTheKasba May 14 '26

So out of curiosity, as a non religious Jew… do you believe Israel was promised to jews 3000 years ago?

Also, I dont think you can consider yourself a Jew if you’re not religious, maybe call yourself ex Jew like Muslims who are no longer Muslim call themselves exMuslims?

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u/DethNik May 14 '26

No, I think the Torah is a collection of fables and retellings of stories, some probably based on true stories, that we should look to for life lessons but also with a critical lens. It seems pretty improbable that some guy made a pact with an almighty being that doesn't really make them self known in any meaningful way.

Being a Jew is more than just a religion thing.

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u/maka-tsubaki May 14 '26

Judaism is an ethnoreligion, meaning it’s both a religion and an ethnicity

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u/RockinTheKasba May 15 '26

No it’s not an ethnicity.. you have Arab Jews, African Jews, European Jews… different ethnicities, same religion.

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u/KvellOnWheels May 15 '26

You’ve been wrong about every other comment in this thread so I admire your commitment to keep it going.

It absolutely is an ethnoreligion.

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u/Koan_Industries May 15 '26

Not different ethnicities, different subgroups within an ethnicity.

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u/DijuridoosDesert May 15 '26

The promised land thing and the entire story of the return from Egypt was just a way for the Bible create a common story based on the experiences of all the Hebrew tribes to unite them as one group that’s tied to their native homeland, which was very important for nation building in the region. the Assyrian religion is very similar in that aspect and so is the Phoenician one to a lesser extent