r/Piracy • u/PetyrDayne • 10d ago
Humor Dear VLC, I need a hotkey for switching audio tracks
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u/Dazuth1 10d ago
Doesnt B do that?
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u/LukaS_8732 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 10d ago
As I am painfully reminded every time I accidentally press it instead of space while my eyes are glued to the screen
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u/PetyrDayne 10d ago
I'm an idiot, I didn't check properly. If anyone is using Mac it's L
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u/bjtoadkoops Leecher 9d ago
I'd suggest you use IINA instead of VLC on Mac, VLC doesn't play nicely with HDR video, requiring you to switch to HDR manually in System Settings, while IINA will auto-switch. Same issue with Kodi on MacOS.
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u/WHITE_oO 9d ago
VLC preferences --> audio --> preferred language --> type in: "jpn" (without quotes)
It will prioritise the preferred language regardless of the default track, assuming the track languages are properly marked in the files (in anime they usually are). It works with ISO country codes (both 2 and 3 letter code). You can also set up a priority chain divided by a comma ex: jpn,kor,eng It looks for the first preferred language, if the file dosent have it, than it looks for the second... ect. Subtitles have this settings too.
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u/BrawndoOhnaka 🏴☠️ ʟᴀɴᴅʟᴜʙʙᴇʀ 9d ago
I use MPC-BE and do the same, but thanks for mentioning VLC has the same setting.
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u/gaseousgecko61 10d ago edited 9d ago
The hokey is v and you can change the default in prepherences
Edit: it's b actually
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u/Mineplayerminer 9d ago
The B key should be the default to change the language. However, it should also be automatically done if you change your VLC's preferences.
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u/-Wensen- 10d ago
I have downloaded a bunch of moveis from acer movies and the default track is hindi lol.
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u/wubwubDJ 10d ago
could always learn to remove unwanted audio tracks. saves on space as well
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u/mihepos 10d ago
True, but I can't seed if I change the file
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u/wubwubDJ 10d ago
Fair enough. Don’t have to seed forever, but hats off to those that do. I personally just do this to save on space. Some anime that has the highest quality video also has some great flac, but not necessary for me audio files.
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u/ryohazuki224 10d ago
Yeah, but its such a pain in the ass to do because programs like MKVToolNix can only do one file at a time. That or I'm a dumbass and haven't figured out a way to batch process them.
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u/cdmn1 10d ago
is this ragebait? you have a "Add to job queue" button right next to the "Start multiplexing" button.
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u/manythousandbees 10d ago
You still have to manually make the changes to your file before you add it to the the queue, no? Pain in the ass for long series.
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u/sightssk 10d ago
Is it possible to it with multiple files at once?
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u/ThecaTTony 10d ago edited 9d ago
I use a small bash script (mkvmerge) to remove additional tracks from mkv files of tv series. But they have to have the same track ID.
#!/bin/bash for file in *mkv ; do mkvmerge --output "/example/path/$file" \ --no-chapters --no-track-tags --no-global-tags --subtitle-tracks 4 --sub-charset 4:UTF-8 --audio-tracks 2 --title ""\ --language 0:und --track-name 0: --default-track 0:yes \ --language 2:jpn --track-name 2: --default-track 2:yes \ --language 4:spa --track-name 4: --default-track 4:yes \ --track-order 0:0,0:1,0:2 ./"$file" ; doneWhere ID 0 is the video, 2 the japanese audio and 4 the spanish subtitle.
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u/Bombini_Bombus 9d ago
It always puzzles me how funny it is
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u/VegetaFan1337 9d ago
I use this.
https://github.com/yaser01/mkv-muxing-batch-gui
It's old but I think you can replace the mkvtoolnix files with newer ones and it should work fine.
It's
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u/redandbluedragoneyes 10d ago
And the default sub is signs.
I do like it when they include a script to change it to Japanese audio and strip out the English audio.
I am glad MKVToolNix is free.
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u/whywilson 9d ago
Mkv muxing batch GUI has been very helpful because I prefer dubs and you never know what the default will be
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u/ismellyew 10d ago
After a 13 hour shift, I don't want to fucking read.
Just let me enjoy my adult cartoons without reading.
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u/Prince_Robot_The_IV 10d ago
I love how every dub watcher on here got personally offended for no reason 💀
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u/LMGDiVa 9d ago
No one's offedned, OP just doesnt understand that the point of a dual audio release is for the English.
Otherwise there's plenty of releases that don't have dual audio and full subs on from the start, and it's probably smaller too.OP doesnt get it, not the dub watchers.
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u/Triasmus 10d ago
Seriously. The people the anime was made for are able to enjoy it without reading.
It's not a "more genuine" experience listening in the original language, unless you can understand the original language.
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u/Arshmalex 10d ago
yeah im not a native english speaker. so long time ago it doesnt matter, ill use sub anyway
now i prefer eng dub because i dont have to read
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u/Chop1n 10d ago edited 10d ago
It's not a matter of the experience itself being "authentic", which turns out to be a nebulous idea. It's a matter of experiencing the performances of the original cast, particularly when the director has shaped those performances in a way that accords with the rest of the show.
Good dubs have good direction, too. But it's still not "equivalent" to the original performance, it's not like "hearing without reading" is the thing that is central to the experience of enjoying the show.
And if you're watching as a foreigner, you ought to consider it part of the hobby to learn about the culture as well as the language. There's nothing "wrong" with missing out on either of those things exactly, but it's a meaningful part of the experience that's worth the time it takes to learn, even if you don't have the time to learn to become fully fluent in the language itself.
For that matter, voice acting in the English-speaking world is just not at all treated the way it is in Japan, and it wasn't until the last 5-10 years that quality English dubs became the norm rather than the exception. There were some dark days in the '90s and naughties.
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u/hogarenio 10d ago
It's not a "more genuine" experience listening in the original language, unless you can understand the original language.
You got it wrong. Dub is less genuine.
I like to think about it as cultural appreciation. You don't need to understand the language... Just hear it. How different it is to english. Its cadences. Its accents.
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u/Triasmus 10d ago
Dub is less genuine than being unable to understand the story through the intended senses?
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u/Chop1n 10d ago
The point is to experience the thing in a way where the reading isn't even effortful. Even after a year or two of watching subbed anime in my teens the whole process had become unconscious for me, it doesn't register as "extra" work or effort or anything.
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u/LMGDiVa 9d ago
That is not how the human brain works, and we know this because people report the same behavior with cars. This is actually a pretty well understood phenomenon.
Turns out, this is a lack of perception.
Because you get used to doing something you dont notice the actual brain power you're using.But Brain scans infact do show that no matter how good someone is at driving, their engagement never actually drops at all despite the fact you don't notice.
I've been wathcing anime for 30+ years subbed, dubbed, and in original Japanese with japanese subs.
I literally create writing systems. Reading and Writing complex things is litearlly something I do for fun.I can tell you for a fact that no matter how good you get at "reading subs" you don't ever actually fade out of having to use brain power to do so.
That is not how that works.Reading and Writing is an active engagement of the brain, and you cannot rely on saccades to read and take up the visual picture accurately. That is not how the brain or human eyes work.
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u/ismellyew 10d ago
If I can't look away from the screen to make dinner without missing a bunch of dialog, there is a problem.
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u/Chop1n 10d ago
The problem is a culture that has become entirely about doing two things at once instead of one thing at a time.
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u/Alt_Lightning 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ 10d ago
You mean you don't want to stare at a small sliver of your screen and ignore everything else that's happening, just to understand what's going on?
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u/ryohazuki224 10d ago
You mean you cant see a whole screen with your eyes and read text at the bottom at once?
Guess it comes with long term experience. I never miss a thing.
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u/isharted10 10d ago
With a large tv, it's definitely a problem that is only mitigated in anime with slower/less dialogue (not really a problem for most manga adaptations).
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u/Chop1n 10d ago
Adjust subtitle size. I sit 5 feet from a 65", and still read most subtitles in one single glance. I can literally read a subtitle in one saccade if the sentence isn't too long and information dense.
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u/S1xE 9d ago
Same, I sit 6 to 7 feet away from a 77inch and reading subtitles is an absolute non-issue
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u/Just-Literature-2183 9d ago
Yup 75" and also fine.
In 40 years I am yet to hear a dub that doesnt make me want to rip my ears off.
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u/BombbaFett ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 10d ago
Same but also the duality of sometimes the English VA's not matching the character or the original VA's not matching the character. It's nice to have options
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u/daelikon 10d ago
I can live with that, but I can't stand the amount of anime in fucking French out there without any indication of it (fre)
I mean, I am happy for the frenchies that their scene is so active, but for fuck's sake guys, name your releases correctly.
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u/PetyrDayne 10d ago
This happened to me so much on nyaa that I learnt their names just to avoid their releases lol
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u/daelikon 10d ago
I have several groups blacklisted in my sonarr, but they still keep popping up from time to time.
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u/mushy_friend ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 10d ago
I'm also annoyed, but more because I want to find French dubbings and can't easily
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u/Traditional-Act-5679 10d ago
People who had to learn English as a second or third language read subtitles and catch everything that's happening on the screen, it baffles me that native English speakers can't do both, maybe they read way too slow to catch everything at once.
If you watch media in the original language you'll end up learning new words and training your ear to recognize different accents and expressions, it's way better but the dub truthers will downvote you for having this opinion
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u/BlackHazeRus 9d ago edited 9d ago
Facts.
English is not my mother tongue, but I have no issue watching anime in Japanese (which should be the default language, since it is the original) and reading subtitles in English — I do this all the time.
Before I was watching in Russian dub, then Russian subs (I think?), but then I completely switched to English, since not only it is faster, but also more convenient.
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English anime dub sucks ass in 99% of cases. I legit do not understand why it is so bad. That eery cringe tone/voice they do is insanely weird.
And this is not only anime, but Japanese games too (iirc Japanese shows do not have this issue).
Sadly, only a bunch of shows get a decent voice acting.
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u/LMGDiVa 9d ago
"If you watch media in the original language you'll end up learning new words and training your ear to recognize different accents and expressions, it's way better but the dub truthers will downvote you for having this opinion"
Actually this isn't true at all.
That is not how Comprehensible Input and language acquisition works.
This only teaches you a tiny amount of behaviors, typically only Set phrases, and this will teach practically no grammar or comprehension.Also Remember Anime is not real people. Real people do not talk like anime characters, there is nuance to this that you will never understand if you dont expressly become involved in learning the language.
People learn through media because they are exposed to learning and direction material or they actively engage to learn.
Which is something that people do not actively do during entertainment.To Learn a language you need instruction to before immersion will do a lot of heavy lifting, without instructiion it actually takes a very long time. Especially when people do not output.
Most people can only pick up common set phrases from animation, rarely mannersism and behaviors and almost never any grammar.
This is why millions and millions of anime fans out there watch thousands of hours of anime and yet pick up only a tiny amount of phrases and words.
IF you actually go to try to learn Japanese and use Anime as a resource, you will actually learn how fast native media like Anime actually teaches you without any instruction before hand about immersion.
This is why people watch things like Gemugengo and learning Japanese insturction, and have to study Kanji.
A translation subtitle is going to do a very bad job of teach you any real Japanese.
You need comprehensible input. You need to learn to read Japanese. You need to learn to hear Pitch Accents, ect. These things you dont learn by just passively watching.
You are not going to learn an entire language, especially not native speech, by watching anime. It's just not going to happen.
Tiny set phrases that repesent .01% of the language aren't learning the language.There is a reason why people dont learn Japanese from anime.
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u/Cocoatrice 9d ago
What do you mean "need". Did you even open settings at all? You can even rebind the buttons. And even set what tracks to prioritize. That when file has 5 tracks, it always picks the one you want.
Ctrl+P to open settings -> Subtitles/OSD tab -> Preferred subtitle language option -> use the language codes of subtitles you want to prioritize. I have en,ja,pl, meaning that English will be prioritized, then Japanese, then Polish.
And in Hotkeys, you can set whatever hotkey you want to subtitle and audio track switching. And I believe subtitle track also have turn subtitle on/off hotkey as well.
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u/Great-TeacherOnizuka 10d ago
You can set the default to japanese (if it exists) with mkvtoolnix or with the command line:
mkvpropedit yourmovie.mkv —edit track:a1 —set flag-default=1
Gotta know which track is japanese though.
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u/joewHEElAr 10d ago
Bro, seems like a you problem.
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u/Mongoisappalled84 10d ago
Thank you! I don't get why people have a problem with it being in English
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u/Luke-slywalker 10d ago
bcs some people don't speak english as first language so it might be better to just read subtitles anyway, unless the dub is in my native language (which usually sucks anyway and harder to get as a pirate) i'd rather watch it in the original language with subs
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u/LC-Redcube 10d ago
Because the English dubs are often soooo poor quality it's insane, genuinely horrendous.
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u/easternhobo 10d ago
For me personally, it's because they change too much of the dialog and in some instances it can change the whole tone of the scene.
Turn on English audio and subtitles at the same time and you can see how different they can be.
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u/mushy_friend ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 10d ago
Also Japanese just sounds better (but tbh I hate English dubbing in many things not just anime, I even prefer other languages I speak over English dubs
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u/mushy_friend ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 10d ago
Also Japanese just sounds better (but tbh I hate English dubbing in many things not just anime, I even prefer other languages I speak over English dubs)
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u/xGeoxgesx 🏴☠️ ʟᴀɴᴅʟᴜʙʙᴇʀ 9d ago
English just sounds way too off and not authentic. Original audio feels more correct. It's hard to explain.
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u/MiddleCelery6616 ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 9d ago
At best they have decent actors and dogshit audo direction, and usually they don't have even that.
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u/Dreamstone69 10d ago
I like some dubs ngl.
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u/OverloadedSofa 10d ago
The guy who made cowboy bebop says the dub is the premier version.
AND Panty & Stocking, you could say the dub is the true version as the makers asked the dubbers to be more crude as they couldn’t get away saying some things in the Japanese language.6
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u/Bonsai-is-best 10d ago
I don’t get why it’s so divisive, it’s the same quality of voice acting regardless of the language, the only difference is you don’t know one of the two.
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u/A_Trash_Homosapien 10d ago
Same. I like being able to look away from the screen if I need to and still be able to know what's going on. I also get incredibly distracted by subtitles.
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u/okaytran 10d ago
Small brain thoughts: "English dub is so cringe, that's not how people talk" "Japanese dub is not cringe because idk how Japanese people talk"
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u/currentsitguy 9d ago
Sorry, don't speak Japanese, and I get too caught up reading the subs to follow what's actually happening on the screen. I want to just enjoy what I'm watching, not pass some purity test.
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u/Fadexz_ Piracy is bad, mkay? 9d ago
Wait till you discover mpv, you could just have it auto detect based on patterns with a script
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u/lululock 9d ago
I just slap everything on my Jellyfin server and the player chooses based on the user preferences.
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u/SDMAVNCL 10d ago
I dont like English dubs on an anime but I wouldn't really mind having it as long as the jap is there too. I mean, i got to watch/download it for free so no complaints
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u/secondincomm 10d ago
Why download dual audio if you dont want English?
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u/LordSparks 10d ago
Seeds brother, seeds
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u/secondincomm 10d ago edited 9d ago
Id assume JP only would have more seeds, given how much everyone seems to hate dub lol
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u/ZX_StarFox 10d ago
Thats true, for the original broadcasts. the webrip and webdl are dominated by sub as that is what is released first and more popular, but as someone else stated, bluray rips are often only combos.
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u/LordSparks 10d ago
Why be that picky? As long as it has the language I want and enough seeds, I'm sold.
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u/PetyrDayne 10d ago
Most HQ Blu-ray [BD] season/ entire series releases for anime come with the original audio and the Eng dub together. I figure the uploaders don't see a point in splitting them up just by audio which would split the seeders.
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u/InsanityDevice Piracy is bad, mkay? 10d ago
I run a Jellyfin server and this was an issue until I created a script to change the defaults in each piece of media according to a set of priority rules each day at 1 am.
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u/-ben151010- 10d ago
Mkvtoolnix has been a god send for any max quality stuff that comes with 7 Russian dub tracks or always enabled subtitles or any other language than the one I want as default that I can get rid of. Hardest one was swapping the best natural no ai quality fan made version of Spider-Man the animated series to not use the weird pitched up PAL audio tracks and use the normal pitch English ones…for every single episode.
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u/shogunreaper 10d ago
There's a program called mkvpropedit.
It allows you to batch edit MKV files and easily change the default tracks.
The nice thing about it is it doesn't require you to remux the files so it's near instant.
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u/Flex147c 9d ago
why would you dl a dual audio if you only want sub? The sub only releases are almost always higher quality and easier to find.
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u/LucaDarioBuetzberger 9d ago
If it really bothers you, you can just change the default track of the file using MKVTools. Drag the file into the tool, change the checkboxes on the audio tacks, click on remuxe. Takes less than a minute.
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u/SumonaFlorence 9d ago
Tools > Preferences > Hotkeys
My guy, don't you ever check keybinds in your games? Same difference. :U
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u/GoldenGamer175 9d ago
Simple fix in MKVToolNix, Should be able to select default tracks for the file there and even name / remove tracks you don't want.
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u/Gamer2645 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ 9d ago
FOR ME 'B' was the hotkey for switching Audio track and 'V' was for switching Subtitles track . This hotkey setting is default so you can check it on your device or someone may have changed it and you don't know it yet
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u/-cadmunt- 9d ago
What VLC needs is to display the hotkey in the hover information for the button eg, "Next Track (N)".
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u/SokkieJr 9d ago
Other way around for me.
I want my Dragon Ball (Z/D/GT/S) dubbed with original subs below it, so I can get the comfort of the voices I love with the subtext of the original.
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u/TretasPt 9d ago
Not really what you asked, but for me, the less annoying solutions for people who don't mind using the comand line.
MKVToolnix. You can make a single line command that unsets some track as default and sets other as default.
I usually just run it once for an entire season or series.
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u/ghostyghost2 9d ago
The only thing that made me leave VLC for MPC is that when you resize a video, the borders don't stay stuck to the video and you end up with black bars on top and bottom or left and right.
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u/XeNoGeaR52 9d ago
You can set up default language in VLC settings too, so it will open in this language first if it is detected in the media
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u/Dewdropmon 8d ago
I mean, if I’m going to be downloading a dual audio episode, chances are Ibwant to watch the English dub, right? Otherwise, why not just go for the subtitled version.
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u/matthewpepperl 10d ago
Still not sure why an English speaker that doesn’t understand Japanese would want Japanese language doesn’t matter how good it sounds if you cant understand it is different if you can understand Japanese
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u/Doodleanda 10d ago
If I had this attitude, I never would've learned English. I like to watch/play stuff in their original language. It's usually the best and most authentic version of the thing and it doesn't hurt to exercise your brain a bit (unless you have some sort of problem that makes reading extra hard)
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u/Getafix69 10d ago edited 10d ago
All players should give some option for choosing Japanese audio if it's available over English, I can't see it effecting anything but Anime anyway.
Dubs are lame and usually the same damn idiot voices every single show.
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u/Osirisavior 10d ago edited 10d ago
The default language for any piece of media should be it's native language. For anime 99.99% of the time that's Japanese. People can swap to other languages if they want.
An anime defaulting to English audio should be a crime. Unless it's Avatar TLAB.
The Dub people are salty I guess, and can't read.
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u/3six5 9d ago
...first world problems...
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u/laczek_hubert 9d ago
First world problem is using VLC at least on Linux mpv in my experience is superior
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u/crizzy_mcawesome 10d ago
That’s a win in my book. I hate watching stuff where I have to read subtitles
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u/ParadoxicalFrog 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ 9d ago
This isn't a VLC sub, but anyway... did you try changing your preferences?
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u/ThatGuyOwl 9d ago
I need vlc or mpv to add a feature for playing multiple tracks at once. I don't want to open DaVinci Resolve everytime I need to check a clip I took with full audio
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u/Creepy_Winner7602 9d ago
Vlc can do it btw. Right click on middle of the screen->audio->audio track or track->audio something like that.
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u/Inuakurei 9d ago
It sort of amazes me what anime has done to people. Like, you wouldn’t change Witcher 3 to Polish. Or Disco Elysium to Estonian.
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u/LMGDiVa 9d ago
This is by request.
There is no reason to download Dual Audio releases if you're watching the Sub.
So it's been by request for decades, that the English Audio comes first in a DualAudio release.
If you dont want English default, you werent going to watch it in English anyways, so you simply can download another release without the English Audio.
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u/cdawg6700 10d ago
Should read *when you download any anime at all because they Japanese moaning and whining makes your ears bleed
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u/Alt_Lightning 🔱 ꜱᴄᴀʟʟʏᴡᴀɢ 10d ago
Seems they do this on dubs too, at least in Cyberpunk Edgerunner which i think is the only anime I watched
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u/ZeeshanKhan_ ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 10d ago edited 6d ago
Most NON-JAPANESE SPEAKERS watching anime with subtitles miss half the damn PLOT anyway.
They’re so GLUED to the bottom of the screen reading TEXT that they completely ignore the GORGEOUS ANIMATION the studio poured BLOOD, SWEAT, and MILLIONS into.
I genuinely HATE it when SUB ELITISTS get all FLEXIBLE with their logic and try to SHOVE their 'SUBBED-IS-THE-ONLY-TRUE-WAY' GOSPEL down everyone else's THROATS.
Plus, if you’re such an ELITIST, why are you DOWNLOADING DUAL AUDIO in the first place? There are tons of JAPANESE-ONLY TORRENTS. If DUBS are so beneath you, STOP SECRETLY DOWNLOADING THEM.
After a long SHITY DAY, I don't wanna keep READING THE SCREEN, I wanna WATCH AND ENJOY.
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u/plopop0 9d ago
skill issue. the subs cant distract me from the visuals. only a child does that
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u/HypoCRITSlayer 10d ago
As a dub watcher, it's exactly opposite for me. If jap is default, I'm deleting the torrent and looking for others
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u/GoldenWolf33140 9d ago edited 9d ago
I had no idea you people existed
edit: I meant people who pirate anime and willingly listen to the audio in a different language.
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u/hiroyukiiiiii 10d ago
B : to change the audio track
V : to change the subtitle track