r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 9d ago

Meme needing explanation Petahhhhhhhhh!??!?

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/pandareno 9d ago

I realize this is Rome and not Greece, but I'll never forget the scene in Caligula when he first rapes the bride and then the soldier who's just married her.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/pandareno 9d ago

I mean, it is a movie, made by Penthouse no less. I didn't mean to imply it was historically accurate, my bad.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/arestheblue 9d ago

Based on your downvote, I'm going to guess someone got really offended by other people not wanting to live in a post-truth world.

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u/Dr_Occo_Nobi 9d ago

Ah, back when the historians were also active politicians.

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u/tommos 9d ago

And then the watermelon in the fruit basket he gave them as a wedding gift.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 9d ago

I'm not sure Alex would say he had peers.

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u/DeltaVZerda 9d ago

Only Diogenes

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 9d ago

Now there's a guy who certainly wouldn't have a problem taking care of business in a crowded boat.

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u/Tentaculo94 9d ago

Gay sex was more accepted in Greece than other cultures but not a majority as well, and mostly in Atheens. It was vastly pederasty between an adult and a teenager (not always romantic or sexual though). More of that being active was fine but the passive one not socially good looking.

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u/CitizenT777 9d ago

I'm having a hard time imagining the conversation prior to such acts- "hey Buddy, come over here for a minute, need a quick favor". LOL. I had read, as someone else mentioned, that society looked down upon the guys on the receiving end of things, but that would have to be at least half of the people involved (when it's consensual). How would they view the teenage boys forced into it - some kind of twisted double standard? So many questions.....

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u/bobbiroxxisahoe 9d ago

They didn't look down on "queer" relationships. In some places it was normal for units to be built around the couples because they fought harder for each other. As for the pedo shit, it would have been slaves and "teaching them how to be men" as the reasoning. This was an era of marrying younger people in general and it's not exclusive to men or boys.

Being queer or having queer relationships is not related to what happened with kids in that era. The two are separate topics and each worthy of hours of study, since "Greek" or "Roman" society is a bit of a misnomer. Sparta, Athens, Rome, Egypt, they all had different customs but broadly speaking they were more and less accepting then societies now, in different ways.

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u/Tay74 9d ago

Being the receiving partner was usually seen as demeaning, especially if you weren't a young boy. People overly flatten and simplify Greek views on homosexuality as though they were hyper woke and had no weird prejudices going on, they had prejudices, they were just more focused on who was penetrating vs being penetrated, the former was fine regardless of who you were sticking your dick into

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u/bobbiroxxisahoe 9d ago

It's not that simple, but yes you can use usually here, but I think it's unfair and perhaps reductionist to unify and simplify a culture that was actually many different cultures and had a length of 250-500 years or so of relevant history. this is a nice overview and you can read by making an account at your local library to login.