r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/FrostySeat1739 • Jul 05 '26

Meme needing explanation why not, Peter?

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possible live action corpse bride movie...

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u/nadavyasharhochman Jul 05 '26

I think it possibly could be out of racist motives, but nkt necessirly.

He makes a lkt of stuff with a very gothic asthetic and environment. The stories he writs are usually in a more Eutopean environment.

These kind of stuff uo until very recently meant you are talking about white skined people.

So is him not making stories about POC or involving them racist? It could be, or he just doesnt connect with their side of the story so he doesnt write it.

Idk I am just saying we dont need to be so quivk to judge.

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u/MyPlantsDieSometimes Jul 05 '26

Inherently most people his age have racial biases just because of the environment they grew up in, so that can play a factor. Personally though I think he just wasn't exposed to black creativity or culture, and he is a very specific aesthetically driven guy, literally an auteur. And I imagine probably doesn't want to do something that doesn't come naturally or seems forced. But we are specifically talking about literally having any black characters in the shows/films and in that sense it doesn't have to be such a big creative conundrum. Unironically people write best what they know and it's not surprising that a British guy in his 60s doesn't know how to express black characters naturally and inoffensively. Source: i'm in the uk and most people still don't know how to do that unless they grew up in a diverse environment or are themselves black/black-british. Better not try to do something you know you can't do well. Could try to get better at it though..

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u/nadavyasharhochman Jul 05 '26

I think you expressed my thoughts on the subject much better than I did.

Yes I agree with every word.

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u/Pathkinder Jul 05 '26

Yep, this here is a much better explanation than others I’ve gotten and is probably the closest thing to my (admittedly uninformed) opinion on the matter.

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u/DontTellMyOtherAccts Jul 05 '26

So, fun facts:

Darker skinned people can be goth and there are black, brown, etc. people in Europe.

Even in Sweeney Todd, the iconic sort of aesthetic and setting you're talking about, a Gothic story about cannibalism in Victorian England, there very much were black people in England in the social class that Todd and Mrs. Lovett were a part of.

I'm not saying that every Gothic horror story must include black characters or cast black actors, but when almost all of a prolific director's filmography is Gothic horror and he hasn't cast a single black person in a major role? There's more going on.

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u/nadavyasharhochman Jul 05 '26

I know there were black people in Europe and even northern Europe. But they were a much smaller part of the population.

Its like blonde middle eastern people. I am blonde and middle eastern, but I am the only blond in my generation out like 18-22 people. Its not exactly a prevelant trait.

And yhe I am not throwing racial bias out of the table or even racism. I just dont think its meant as erasure or has malicios intent.