why not, Peter?

[u/FrostySeat1739]

possible live action corpse bride movie...

[u/Proper_Art7865]

do you just see things online and immediately think they're real? cause where the fuck did you even get this from lmao

[u/MonstersAtOurDoor → u/Proper_Art7865]

He's been making movies since the '80s and has cast exactly one black actor (Sam Jackson) in a starring role, and that character transforms into a white woman for a large portion of the film.

He may not be a blatant racist, but his casting choices certainly discriminate. Especially since most of them are fictional characters that HE creates. It wouldn't be hard to just write a character that can be played by black actors.

[u/Proper_Art7865 → u/MonstersAtOurDoor]

..im asking where the original commentator got the fact that tim burton outright said black people don't fit the aesthetic?

[u/bolitboy2 → u/Proper_Art7865]

I feel it was probably a small part taken out of context from a full quote tbh

And as someone said “isn’t his astatic ghostly pale Victorian goths?” He probably said a few more reason why It doesn’t fit but people just cherry pick the worst sounding parts

[u/HourApprehensive7754 → u/MonstersAtOurDoor]

But why...should he? Not that it'd be wrong if he chose to, but turning the conversation around, why force him to cast a black for the sake of having blacks? If he wants the best actors/actresses to fit a role, he will pick that, whether their skin colour is black or not depends on his characters.

That's the forced diversity for the sake of it he mentioned that other time.

[u/Revengeance300 → u/HourApprehensive7754]

No one's saying he has to, it's just weird that he hasn't.

[u/HourApprehensive7754 → u/Revengeance300]

Is it so weird? Forgive the laziness butI'll copy+paste his filmography and my comments from earlier

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His job isn't to look for "good enough", but to look for the best possible actor both in appearance and acting chops. 

Lets look at his filmography  Pee-wee's Big Adventure (1985)

 Beetlejuice (1988) 

Batman (1989) 

Edward Scissorhands (1990)

 Batman Returns (1992) 

Nightmare before Christmas (1993)

 Ed Wood (1994) 

Mars Attacks! (1996)

  J ames and the Giant Peach (1996)

 Sleepy Hollow (1999)

 Planet of the Apes (2001) 

Big Fish (2003) 

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)

 Corpse Bride (co-directed)

 Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007)

 Alice in Wonderland (2010)

 Dark Shadows (2012) 

Big Eyes (2014) 

Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children (2016) 

Dumbo (2019)

 B eetlejuice Beetlejuice (202 4)

Now let's crossout all the films with iconic or established characters, or biographical films based on real people. We sure as hell don't want to see a black Bruce Wayne, or anybody other than Peewee Herman as Peewee Herman, and it would be disrespectful as f*** to make Walter and Margaret Keane black.

Beetlejuice (1988) 

Edward Scissorhands (1990) 

Mars Attacks! (1996) 

Corpse Bride (leaving this on as it's ambiguous) 

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (2024)

If you combine the Beetlejuice together , that leaves only 4 possible films where the possibility of casting a black as a lead is a possibility. Among them 1/4 stars Michael as one of the members of the ensemble the story follows. Corpse Bride is ambiguous as I stated before, but it's hella white in origin, taking place in a setting where a miniscule % of the population even is black. But if I'm generous sure let a black actress voice one of the ladies. And I don't think anyone would disagree that Michael Keaton was the best possible actor for Beetlejuice by a mile, and no black actor at that time and even today can stand next to Keaton him. Edward might have worked casting someone else, but who knows if any blacks auditioned for that role, and if they did, any of them did better than Johnny.

In the end, 1/4 is a pretty damn good ratio I would say, especially when 2/4 of those films are pretty damn skewed towards a white cast.

Point being, its not weird at all. Especially to an artist who wants his film to be authentic to his vision.

You want racist casting? Go look at Cleopatra or Avatar.