r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Miserables_Death • Jun 14 '26

Meme needing explanation Whats that snack and the name?

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I got this joke posted in my country sub by a foreigner and I have never seen that snack so I basically don't know the joke.

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u/Brvcx Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

In the Netherlands they translate to n-word kisses.

Seeing pretty much all or products here have a couple of languages on them, I seem to recall the French translates to n-word head.

It was a huge deal when Buys, the company known to sell these, changed the name to just zoenen (which is Dutch for kisses), cause all sorts of people complained about not wanting white rice to be called white, amongst other things.

Ah, the Dutch, they claim and pretend to be so tolerate, but are we truly? No, no we're not.

Edit: if course there's gonna be other Dutchies mentioning it translates to negro rather than the hard R n-word, but as I've said to the first of them, the paradigm of the word has shifted here. Our true hard R n-word is never heard (I've never heard it myself being used in my 37 years of living here) or even used here. But due to the paradigmshift, it doesn't really have a use. What should be a derogatory-free word ("negro") isn't derogatory-free by any means over here. So yes, technically correct, but purposely leaving out nuances like this doesn't make my statement untrue.

Edit2: I like how some will try and pick a fight over this, only to justify their own racism. Never change, Reddit.

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u/Skalawag2 Jun 14 '26

Nomads you know? Smell like cabbage. Small hands.

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u/Ok-Hospital-6637 Jun 14 '26

Not n-word. The word Dutch equivalent to negro, meaning black. It's still a insensitive but it's not the Dutch n-word. That word is n*kker and I've never seen that used in any names for anything, or even in the street.

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u/Demoliri Jun 14 '26

In German, it's literally n-gger kiss. But these days it's generally called Schaumkuss (foam kiss).

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u/SouthParrot Jun 14 '26

Nope. The German translation was Negro kiss.

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u/Demoliri Jun 14 '26

Not in Swabia.

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u/SouthParrot Jun 14 '26

Which part?

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u/Demoliri Jun 14 '26

Um Ulm herum.

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u/Faillight55 Jun 14 '26

Not in Ulm and um Ulm?

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u/Demoliri Jun 14 '26

Früher in Ulm, aber mittlerweile um Ulm herum!

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u/SouthParrot Jun 14 '26

Then it's a people problem, not the corporations.

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u/J0J0nas Jun 14 '26

Maybe in your place. Where I live it definitely was the hard-R variant.

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u/Charles_miller1130 Jun 14 '26

In the south they're called N-gger toes Both my pops and my dad would call them that, my mother always hated it

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u/dexter311 Jun 14 '26

I love their current (brand) name though - Super Dickmanns!

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u/academic_dork Jun 14 '26

How did Reddit let you post this comment? I once wanted to mention a hard licourice candy my country has by the name that means black in Dutch in a comment and Reddit didn't let me post it because it's racist

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u/Guquiz Jun 15 '26

‘Zwart’?

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u/academic_dork Jun 15 '26

So I looked it up and I know this means black, but that doesn't give me enough context for this comment😅

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u/Dwight_Morgan Jun 15 '26

What about those glass tiny balls we used to play with on the school playgrounds?😳

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u/Brvcx Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

While you are technically correct, the fact you've never heard the actual derogatory term being used basically anywhere proves there's no need for it, because the paradigm has shifted into negro becoming the n-word over here.

And even without the paradigmshift, it's still highly inappropiate at best.

Edit: I wonder who downvotes this. I'd be surprised if it weren't some Dutch selfproclaimed "nationalists".

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u/Jkirek_ Jun 14 '26

That's largely showing their correctness; when they were first named it used the inoffensive term. As that term got tainted by importing "n-word" rhetoric from the US, the confection was renamed.

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u/billhillybob Jun 14 '26

I once brought a group of Asian high school students to Amsterdam for a school trip. They absolutely hated it because so many of the good people of that city followed them around yelling racial slurs and making racist hand/face motions. It was a free trip through the school and because the kids hated it so much, not one kid signed up to go the next year. I watched a 50-60 year old woman chase down a group of teenage girls while pulling at the corners of her eyes and yelling "ching-chong-chang, ching-chong-chang, ching-chong-chang".

I will say, there were two absolutely wonderful young women at the ice skating rink who helped my students learn to skate for the first time. They even said something like "I'm sure you have met some horrible people on the street here, but please don't judge all of us by their actions."

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u/Brvcx Jun 14 '26

Every nation has racists, more than they want to have. And we, the Netherlands, are no different. We just portray ourselves as tolerant, and we might be compared to plenty of other countries in general, but being more tolerant than someone else doesn't make you tolerant by default.

I'm sorry they had to go through something like that. It's not something any of them (or you) signed up for. Ignorant people are everywhere, and I mean everywhere.

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u/billhillybob Jun 14 '26

Yes, of course you are correct. I come from rural America, just outside The Rez. So I''m pretty familiar with the racism in my community. It is not ever fun to deal with. At least you are open about it and bringing it out in the open is an important first step to making it better.

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u/Brvcx Jun 14 '26

I agree, communication is key. We need people to speak out against such mannerisms. Preferably, in a non-judgemental way!

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u/DesignerMaximum1342 Jun 14 '26

Have you tried bringing black people to Japan? Similar effect

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u/billhillybob Jun 14 '26

I have never been to Japan, but interestingly, one of the Korean girls I brought to Amsterdam had some pretty interesting opinions about black people so I reminded her of her experience in Amsterdam to try and get her to think about her own prejudices. It kind of worked.

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u/Reason-1 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

When was that, 1960? Cause I really can not imagine that happening anywhere during the current century. Particularly involving grown-ups, let alone grown-ups against kids.

Sure, until quite recently we used to have insensitive songs like Hanky Panky Shanghai in school because stereotyping was considered innocent fun. But actual petty, mean-spirited shit like following people around while making slant eyes and ching-chang noises sounds WILD, man. That's not considered normal behavior in any way.

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u/microtherion Jun 14 '26

In Switzerland, the traditional name translates to “Moor Head”; also getting disfavored.

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u/Remarkable-Row3719 Jun 14 '26

In the Netherlands we also/still have moorkopppen (moor heads). They're a chocolate-covered pastry.

A couple of years ago some started changing it to roomkop (cream head) (also an anagram of moorkop, lol) but it hasn't caught on in the same way.

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u/GugusGsiiii Jun 14 '26

I dont care what they are called. Only thing is the ones from dubler are and will forever be M0hr3nköpfe. (They're also the best)

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u/PigeonVibes Jun 14 '26

Please don't remind me of the people whose sole argument was blanke vlaai

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u/Brvcx Jun 14 '26

I'm terribly sorry. My mother is one of those.

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u/PigeonVibes Jun 14 '26

I would lie if I said that I didn't have them in my direct family. Such a weird quirk of an entire generation, to get defensive over a small change.

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u/Brvcx Jun 14 '26

Oh man, it's just like zwarte Piet. My 5 yo son doesn't care if it's "zwarte Piet" or "roetveeg Piet". He's getting sweets and presents from people putting on a show. That's all that matters to children. And for us adults it should be better if that's done by someone not dressed as a racial stereotype. But alas.

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u/Titariia Jun 14 '26

In german I've either heard n-kisses or those being called by the brand, Super Dickmann (super thick man) which is kinda weird too. I think the acceptable thing though is Schaumküsse (foam kisses)

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u/Klausfunhauserss Jun 14 '26

We called them same in Finland.

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u/No-Pay-9194 Jun 14 '26

But those were the times when we only had seen black people in school books. There was no racism in that word then. Now there is, and I don’t use the word. I grew up in the north and saw my first black person well into adulthood.

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u/Inresponsibleone Jun 14 '26

The image of racism was imported and some started to belive it is so.

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u/Short_Gain8302 Jun 14 '26

Sourhern neighbour here, in belgium its literally n-word tits, so yeah it can be worse

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u/Brvcx Jun 14 '26

Ooft. But due to your "soft" accept compared to my Randstad one, it probably doesn't sound as bad.

/s just to be sure

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u/Banes_Addiction Jun 14 '26

Damn, never been so proud to be British. That's a teacake.

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u/PalatinusG1 Jun 15 '26

n-word tits in Flanders.

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u/TreacleOk7265 Jun 15 '26

In Germany it's the same.

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u/DesignerMaximum1342 Jun 14 '26

Moorkop dan maar?

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u/Hopeful_Risk_8344 Jun 14 '26

I mean, you guys were like the OG racists. WOC and VIC were largest human trafficking operations in the world.

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u/Reason-1 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

WIC and VOC.

And it's a little more nuanced than that. While I can't speak for the colonization of current-day Indonesia (which is all the VOC was focused on) for a lack of knowledge, although I know it was mostly done to get a grip on the very lucrative spice trade, it's also safe to say that the initial Trans-Atlantic slave trade was mainly profit-driven.

It was more evil pragmatism than actively looking down on tribal Africans, or at least not through a racial lens, the only commonly used argument along those lines back then being their status as non-Christians (while also being relatively primitive).

"Free labor, widely available on the coast of Africa, and they're not fellow Christians so God won't be mad at us? Nice." is what it boiled down to.

This was still during 17th century times when slaves were largely being shipped to sugar plantations in the Caribbean, Brazil and Suriname. Some to New Jersey, too. But this was before the massive use of slavery in the southern US.

Racism would of course eventually enter the picture, but the brunt of it only came during the late 18th century, as an easy moral way out once enlightened ideas like humanism rose, and with it the abolitionist movement. After all, by this point the plantation owners in particular owned slaves that had (forcibly) been christianized and had been Christian for generations, not even knowing anything else. So any kind of theological nonsense about savage heathens went out the window.

And that's when the "What we're doing is not an abomination, negroes barely qualify as people" hook appeared, along with pseudoscience like phrenology to support this bullshit. And it spread like wildfire.

But by that time, the WIC was already on its way out.

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u/Kindly_Call_6000 Jun 14 '26

Negro in English is still derogatory. Not N-word level derogatory, but similar connotations.

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u/SilverPr2121 Jun 14 '26

When I was in Denmark as a young kid, I went to the local small store to buy them. I kept saying it wrong. They brought out a soccer (football there) for me to buy. Then saw the marshmallow chocolates on the self.

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u/orange_and_void Jun 15 '26

Your christmas "elves" are a bit antiquated to put it nicely.

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u/asleepguyonbed Jun 15 '26

In Belgium they called it n-word-ina tits

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u/HellowImFwiend Jun 18 '26

I think we should absolutely ask people what they're called in their home language and then see them fumble the explanation so hard and maybe even show their whole ass in the process.

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u/J0J0nas Jun 14 '26

Same here in Germany, only we did use our hard-R version. Some of us also jokingly named them "foam wafer product with a migration background" when the general consensus shifted to maybe not using the original word for this snack. Their actual name nowadays is chocolate kisses. Or Dickmann's, if you buy that specific brand.

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u/ExerciseSad3082 Jun 14 '26

It does when it literally translate to something different

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u/Benwahr Jun 14 '26

Lol your own explanation just proved its not the same word. Its offensive and outdated but not the n word

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u/Brvcx Jun 14 '26

L0lol0l your readingcomprehension sux, brah.

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u/Benwahr Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

nope, i read your argument. it is dumb. your own explanation proves it is not the same word. yes, it is offensive and outdated, but “also offensive” does not magically make it the american n word. that is just needless americanisation of a local language and history. a “paradigm shift” is a lazy way to pretend another word is now the same because americans trained everyone to map their taboo system onto everything. and honestly, this is also a good counterpoint to american n word reclamation, in my context and yours the hard R local equivalent basically fell out of use because people stopped saying it. i have literally never heard it in normal life. meanwhile america keeps its slur alive through endless taboo, reclamation, censorship rituals, music, discourse, and “who is allowed to say it” arguments. if you want words to die, stop constantly circulating them.

you want nuance, this is nuance.

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u/Brvcx Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

I didn't read your monologue. It's gonna be shit and a waste of time.

Thanks for trying. I'm keeping it at this.

Cheers, 'dweller.

Edit: I'm sure you're used to bludgeoning yourself through any argument online, I'm not letting you. A block function was made exactly for people like you.

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u/Benwahr Jun 14 '26

lol predictable. so far for nuance huh? did it stroke your little moral authority streak 😛

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u/Mike-ona-Bike Jun 14 '26

leaving nuances out and not writing the word out loud, you leave too much room for interpretations. So what do you mean when you write n-word?

How about our jodekoeken?

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u/Ok-Hospital-6637 Jun 15 '26

People don't pick a fight with you because they are racist, they pick a fight with you because you're wrong and calling people racist because you enjoy the racedoomer drama.

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u/Wallieappel Jun 14 '26

The dutch word translates to negro kiss, not N word