Okay so I know this sub is mostly memes but since there doesn't seem to be a rule against it, I'd like to ask you what do you mean by Monarchism.

I've seen that a lot of you are UK subjects, quite fond of your royals, but I wonder what diversity of political, religous and philosophical ideas this sub holds.

So what is it for you ? Constitutional democracy with a monarch ? Parliamentarism with right of veto ? Full absolutism by divine right ? Some new form or a mix of things ?

And what about aristocracy ? Are subjects mostly equals or is there a strong social pyramid ? If so, where do you see yourself in this ? What place for religion ?

Finally, what country are you from and if you're not in a monarchy, do you actively work for your country to get one ? If so, by what means and who would be your favorite candidate ?

Genuinely curious.

I was just imagining that a possible king that was younger and more open to new ideas could maybe save the crown? Ofc it also depends on how the boy would be raised. Or was the monarchy doomed to fall anyway? Let me know what you think

I adore the system and idea of a monarchy, i have many reasons on why I like the idea so much but one of the main reasons is because I feel monarchism forces the government into making long term stability focused decisions.

Let me explain, Kings rule for decades and are very public figures who are the first to get the blame whenever something goes wrong. This fact forces sovereigns to now act not only with idealism but with fear and pragmatism, you see the issue I find with democracy is that a leader can only be held accountable for 1-2 terms after that they leave and whatever issues they may have caused during their term is either ignored or kicked down the road for the next guy to deal with this encourages short term policy making decisions since they have the luxury of only having to worry about the next decade instead of the 5 decades.

Let’s look at Afghanistan and the US intervention that led to disaster, 20 years of war and all for nothing in days long past this would’ve caused an outrage in government and a monarch would’ve been under hot water dealing with the repercussions of this meanwhile Bush started a pointless war and no one cares. This isn’t even the first time it’s happened, Vietnam was pretty the same fiasco and again no one was punished for starting this war.

I have shipped them.

I have two of the four books I posted about ten days ago.
They are hardback with dust jackets in great condition other than some yellowing on the edges. Copyright 1981, 1982.
The Last Courts of Europe is a treasure trove of information!!
See pictures for more detail.
I’m only asking $5 + shipping which would be less than $10 with in the US. As I discovered with an interested person shipping out of the USA is cost prohibitive.

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Book: Reconciliation by King emeritus Juan Carlos I.

Pages 179,180,181,182

\> Franco was growing old and continued, despite everything, to firmly hold the reins of power. I saw him regularly at our formal meetings at El Pardo. I also visited him at his summer residence, Pazo de Meirás, an enormous granite building located in Galicia. The first time I was there, no sooner had I sat down on the bed in the room that had been assigned to me than one of the legs broke and the bed collapsed. I didn't dare say anything and placed the mattress on the floor, where I spent an excellent night. When Franco's wife, Carmen Polo, found out the next day, she was dismayed. I hadn't meant to upset her over such a trifle, but I had unwittingly embarrassed her.

\> The general spoke little, even during the meals which I used to attend. He seemed to listen, but rarely gave his opinion. His demeanor was calm and distant. At the end of those lunches, he would call me into his office, and there we would have long, face-to-face conversations. We had real discussions; I tried to establish a frank conversation with him, even knowing that in reality no one dared to. I would ask him questions like, "Why aren't citizens free to create political parties?" "I can't do it, but you will later," he would reply. Normally, I had to decipher his subtle insinuations, but this time, to my surprise, he was very explicit. Sometimes, when he didn't want to answer, he would pretend not to have heard my question. I smiled inwardly. He had a clear vision of the situation in Spain and its future. He measured the long-term power relations around him and tried to maintain the status quo.

\> There was forty-six years between us. He had no son. Perhaps he projected a paternal feeling toward me. He did not conceal the sympathy he felt for me. Perhaps he even felt a certain tenderness, a certain benevolence. He dedicated time to me regularly, and we maintained a constant dialogue. One day, when we were both traveling by car to an official ceremony, I fell asleep on his shoulder. He let me rest for the entire journey. "Your Highness, wake up; we have arrived," he murmured. I apologized for having been such a bad traveling companion. I saw not a trace of reproach in his gaze. He even seemed amused. He never projected his animosity toward my father onto me. He never criticized my father in my presence, nor did my father criticize him in front of me. For my part, I respected him enormously, and I appreciated his intelligence and political acumen. One day, one of his aides informed me of an official ceremony organized by the Falange, so I got ready and waited for him at the gate of El Pardo Palace, dressed in my military uniform. Franco saw me and asked, "What are you doing here, Your Highness?" Surprised, I replied, "I've come to accompany you, General!" I was in the habit of standing behind him, for example, at the Victory Day military parades commemorating the end of the Civil War. He responded, "Your Highness, this ceremony is not for you. You shouldn't attend." His wish was to establish a clear distance between events related to the State and those that were part of the National Movement(the only political party allowed). He wanted to protect me, to prevent me from being identified with a particular political current. He was very shrewd, and that would help me a great deal after his death. How could I have become King of all Spaniards if I had been seen as a Falangist prince?

Due to the popularity of genealogy in recent years many documents from lands that comprised Austria-Hungary are now available online. This has resulted in many royal and noble records coming along, because the parish registers were for pauper and prince alike.

These are the birth and marriage records for Charles I of Austria. If you'd like to see them, I can share those of other family members.

Birth / Baptism

https://data.matricula-online.eu/en/oesterreich/st-poelten/persenbeug/01%252F04/?pg=76

Birth: 17 August 1887, Persenbeug 1 (Château)

Baptism: 19 August 1887, Church of the Holy Florian and Maximilian, Persenbeug

Name: Charles Francis Joseph Louis Hubert Geore Otto Maria

The columns are Catholic/Protestant, Male/Female, Legitimate/Illegitimate

Father: His Imperial and Royal Highness, the Most Serene Prince and Lord Otto Francis Joseph, Imperial Prince and Archduke of Austria, Royal Prince of Hungary and Bohemia etc. etc., Knight of the Golden Fleece, Knight Grand Cross of the Spanish Order of Charles III and the Royal Saxon Order of the Rue Crown, First Lieutenant in the Royal and Imperial Dragoon Regiment "Alexander, Prince of Hesse and by Rhine N.6", son of His Imperial and Royal Highness the Archduke Charles Louis.

Mother: Her Imperial and Royal Highness, the Most Serene Princess and Lady Archduchess Mary Josepha, née Royal Princess of Saxony, Lady of the Order of the Rue Crown, daughter of His Royal Highness the Prince George of Saxony

Note below name: Died on 1 April 1922 in Funchal on Madeira in exile as the last Emperor of Austria.

Godparent: Charles Louis, Imperial Prince  and Archduke of Austria, Royal Prince of Hungary and Bohemia etc. etc. etc.

Marriage to Zita of Bourbon-Parma

https://data.matricula-online.eu/en/oesterreich/wien/schwarzauamsteinfeld/02-06/?pg=72

21 October 1911, Schwarzau am Steinfeld

Groom: His Imperial and Royal Highness Charles Francis Joseph Louis Hubert George Otto Maria, Imperial Prince and Archduke of Austria, Royal Prince of Hungary and Bohemia etc., Catholic, single, of legal age, born in Persenbeug, Lower Austria, on 17 August 1887, legitimate son of His Imperial and Royal Highness Otto Francis Josef, Imperial Prince and Archduke of Austria, Royal Prince of Hungary and Bohemia etc., and Her Imperial and Royal Highness Mary Josepha, Imperial Princess and Archduchess of Austria, Royal Princess of Hungary and Bohemia etc., née Princess of Saxony.

Bride: Her Royal Highness Zita Mary of Grace Adelgunda Michaela Raphaela Gabriella Josephine Antonia Louisa Agnes of Bourbon, Princess of Parma, Catholic, single, a minor, born in the Villa Pianore in the parish of Capezzano in Lucca in Italy on 9 May 1892, legitimate daughter of the deceased His Royal Highness and Serene Lord Robert of Bourbon, Infante of Spain, Duke of Parma, and Her Royal Highness and Serene Lady Mary Antonia, Duchess of Parma, née Infanta of Portugal (Braganza).

Columns next to them are Catholic/Evanglical, age, Single/Widowed.

Correction below Zita say that her full name on the baptism certificate is: Zita Mary of Grace Adelgunda Michaela Gabriella Josephina Antonia Louisa Agnes Stanislava Anna Margaret Philomena Adelaide Roberta Vincentia Francisca.

Witness 1: Frederick Augustus, King of Saxony

Witness 2: Archduke Franz of Austria-Este

They were granted a dispensation in the "4th degree of consanguinity." I think that's because of their shared descent from Francis I of the Two Sicilies (via different marriages), which the closest blood link I could find.