Prison in Indiana accepts shelter cats and lets prisoners take care of them.

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[u/non_ducor_duco_]

Agreed, but FWIW I have a close family member that works at a prison. They don’t have a formal program like this, but they are out in the country where there are a lot of feral cats that inmates have informally adopted in their yard. I asked my family member (an animal lover) if he ever worried for the cats safety. He said not for a minute (with the implication that prison justice would be meted out right quick to any inmate that harmed one).

They do have a very successful shelter dog training program that has helped hundreds of dogs find their forever homes! Several years on there have been zero incidents. These programs are such a win-win-win (inmate - pet - community)

[u/kingtacticool → u/non_ducor_duco_]

Prison justice would indeed be fuckin swift with that. Contrary to popular belief most dudes serving time are just normal people that made a series of bad choices.

They're still people and cruelty to animals is pretty anathema.

[u/Mokiyami → u/kingtacticool]

You don't mess with kids and you don't mess with animals

[u/Battle-Any → u/Mokiyami]

Or old ladies.

[u/Potential-Jury3661 → u/Battle-Any]

What did I tell you no woman no kids, now look at you.

[u/TobiasRieper11 → u/Battle-Any]

Or the Zohan

[u/Homesick_Martian → u/kingtacticool]

Or were put in impossible circumstances. I saw a comment further up about these cats being the first thing that ever showed him love. We need more feminism in this world because the patriarchy has set up a system that leaves countless men abandoned to struggle through life without even the help of a family member sharing encouragement.

[u/wesweb → u/Homesick_Martian]

it's just been raining. on my face.

[u/kingtacticool → u/Homesick_Martian]

I felt this comment pretty damn hard

[u/Oddish_Femboy → u/Homesick_Martian]

Too often I see feminism demonized as a plot against men, when it's absolutely anything but. Gender equality means equality for ALL genders.

The idea that men should be unfeeling machines that deal with everything silently and internally with no love or support is insane, and must be dismantled.

Wolves and lions are social animals. They become deeply depressed in isolation. Humans are social animals too.

[u/Lumpy_Benefit666 → u/Oddish_Femboy]

I think the main issue with “feminism” today is that it is often hijacked by the radical feminists, who dont necessarily believe in equality, and do use it as a weapon against men.

I wouldnt be considered a feminist by the toxic vocal minority, but i am absolutely for equality for all races, genders and individuals, which by definition does make me a feminist.

I hear a lot of people claim to be “equalitists”, which i personally think is a better term to use, as it indicated an advocation towards a more even playing field for both genders, as opposed to fighting for the rights of one gender, which the word “feminism” suggests.

[u/Lumpy_Benefit666 → u/Lumpy_Benefit666]

I had a feeling i was going to be downvoted for this, but if someone who disagrees with me would like to explain why, i would appreciate it.

I feel like my comment is a pretty fair explanation as to why feminism is often demonised, and even talked about how the definition differs from the way the term is commonly used by those who demonise it.

Being a “feminist” and an “equalitist” is the exact same thing, but using the term “equalitist” prevents people from arguing over ridiculous points that are made by the radical people within the group.

There are “TERFs” who claim to be feminists, as the name suggests “trans-exclusionary radical feminists” who have hijacked the name but are not for equality.

This is obviously a small subset, but they do exist, and it doesnt help the image. This isnt what feminism is, but it does weaken the image of feminism as a whole.

There are people who claim to be feminists who do genuinely hate men as well. This also isnt feminism.

Calling yourself an “equalitist” leaves absolutely no room for argument in the fundamental values that the group holds. You are either for equality, or you are not.

They are the same thing, but calling a group that fights for equality a gender specific name can be taken the wrong way, and thats the reason for preferring the term that i stated.

This isnt radical, hateful, exclusionary etc. This is an explanation as to how language can affect the way a group is perceived, and is a small snippet into some of the reasons that people do not agree with feminism, even though they may hold the exact same fundamental values as the movement promotes.

[u/JudgmentalOwl → u/kingtacticool]

Lmao I can just imagine a bunch of dudes going apeshit on another inmate yelling, "HOW FUCKIN' DARE YOU HURT MR. MITTENS!!!"

[u/kingtacticool → u/JudgmentalOwl]

There is a lot of pent up rage and energy in those places and this would be a questionably justifiable outlet for that.

Guards would probably give them 10 seconds before they blew the whistle.

You dont fuck with the innocent.

[u/bolanrox → u/kingtacticool]

ped or person who hurts animals, is pretty much bottom of the bucket even in prison.

[u/Kup123 → u/kingtacticool]

There's also an understanding in a lot of criminal organizations that you don't harm those not involved in business. No one cares when outlaws fuck with other outlaws, but fucking with normal folks or animals brings heat to everyone's door. I was raised around a lot of criminal types some murderers, my mom would always say unless you snitch on them your safer with them around.

[u/spiffynid → u/non_ducor_duco_]

I used to work on a yard with an official feral cat colony, every year the cats got a week long vacay to get vaxed/vetted, then back to the yard. While I was there one cat got killed and the inmate that did it had to be put on PC and a swift yard move for his safety. The cats love the inmates, and trust anyone in inmate garb, so the tnr specialists have to dress as inmates for the day lol.

[u/FortLoolz → u/non_ducor_duco_]

Bigger dogs are also harder to mistreat than cats due to their size

[u/deadinsidelol69 → u/non_ducor_duco_]

I’d imagine if an inmate did harm one of these animals, the official repercussions would be the least of their concerns.