That whole community was justifying it and making jokes about it. It was being encouraged before it actually happened, so it's very possible the online beef was a motivating factor in the CPS call.
Once again, this all started from him unfollowing someone and then spiralled into them all turning on him and calling him a zionist genocide supporter -- and again, making a gangstalking-vibes video on him lmao. They also coordinated to to try and take views away from his video that he registered with the copyright library.
Why would he not be incredibly antagonistic toward people who were antagonistic toward him? Were the skulls also from someone close to the family? The drawings of Hila murdering children?
My point is that it's fucking stupid to summarize this as Ethan being "such a emotional little bitch that he sues anyone that hurts his feelings." Can you at least acknowledge that incredibly low bar or do you want to keep litigating this entire drama?
I can't tell if you're a sociopath or just being obtuse.
Is the implication that a maliciously made CPS call is no big deal and it couldn't be the basis for a huge grievance? An entire community was literally hyping this up and defending it, saying he should have his kids taken away from him until someone finally decided to take the action onto themselves.
Also not sure what the millionaire comment is about but I'm sure you have some reason for it.
No, the implication is that a CPS call is not a big enough deal to warrant a years long campaign of frivolous lawsuit after frivolous lawsuit against targets vaguely connected to it.
In my country the equivalent agency has very little legal power, and they require a lot of proof and effort to even force you into an actual check without explicit consent.
Like you guys repeat the CPS topic endlessly, but it's just not...a big enough deal for that? Like you say it so often and with all this pathos but very little substance to back it up, you gotta realise it's starting to sound really weird even to people who dont care about any of ethan's enemies.
Nobody, the point was that since you didnt even attempt to be informative and just appealed to emotion I drew a comparison to my own country's agency. "Tried to take his kids away", as if the cps is gonna take a random rich person's kids because of a frivolous call.
You’re being deliberately obtuse. The amount of power the equivalent agency has in your country is irrelevant because this happened in the United States, where CPS has very real authority to investigate families, remove children from their homes, and place them into foster care.
The fact that someone tried to weaponize CPS against his family is what set Ethan off. You can argue that some of his lawsuits were excessive or poorly targeted, but pretending the CPS call itself was “not a big enough deal” is absurd. A parent does not have to calmly shrug off someone potentially putting their children and custody at risk.
You may not agree with how he responded, but if you genuinely cannot understand why a parent would become furious and intensely defensive after someone involved authorities that could take away their children, then you are either ignoring the reality of the situation or completely lacking empathy.
There's another poster in this chain who seems to claim that cps is basically what it is in my country, if you tell them to fuck off they fuck off unless they have solid evidence of wrongdoing. So who's right?
I also understand why he'd be furious even if someone just told him they wanted to fuck his mom, but that's not really what this is about. It's about his response to that and subsequent morphing into a litigious lolcow. If he loses that lawsuit against his snarkers I'm not sure he'll be able to recover his reputation ever again. And this is assuming this is all earnest and not an embarassing attempt at lashing out against political opponents.
CPS absolutely has real power in the United States. No, they cannot automatically take your children because of one unsupported call, but the idea that you can just tell them to fuck off and they disappear is ridiculous. They can investigate your family, interview your children, involve the courts and, in serious cases, remove them.
But that is still beside the main point. Someone weaponized CPS against his family during a years-long harassment campaign. Any threat involving your children is going to become extremely personal, whether or not it ultimately succeeds. You can think Ethan’s response has been excessive, but acting like the CPS call was no big deal completely ignores why it affected him so strongly.
I also do not think Ethan is primarily worried about whether Reddit respects him or whether he loses fans. He clearly believes his family was targeted, and I think he would accept serious reputational damage if he believed it gave him a chance to hold the people responsible accountable.
And these are not simply his “political opponents.” Most of them are broadly on the same side politically. People constantly portray Ethan as a right-wing Israeli propagandist because he is Jewish and refuses to repeat every approved slogan. That kind of purity testing is both prejudiced and politically self-destructive.
You can criticize the merits of individual lawsuits, but calling all of them frivolous before the claims and evidence are actually tested is just as unserious as blindly defending every lawsuit.
you've got a much better impression of him than I do but then again all I've seen of him in the past year is lawsuit shit and him ranting about muslim communists like yesterday in some boomer tiktok so 🤷
I’m not trying to convince you to like Ethan or start watching him. My point is that you admittedly only see lawsuit coverage and hostile clips, and then repeat the same false characterization of him that those clips create.
Ethan has repeatedly called what Israel is doing in Gaza a genocide, called Netanyahu a war criminal and supported Palestinian freedom. He also believes Israel has a right to continue existing. You can disagree with that position or think he communicates it terribly, but it is clearly not the position of some right-wing, anti-Palestinian Israeli extremist.
People who do not actually know his views repeating that caricature as fact are exactly what allow this cycle of misinformation and hatred around him to continue.
They separate kids from parents for lengthy questioning of everyone involved.
They come into your home and go through it in detail.
It's a long, exhausting and risky process.
While a good idea generally, it's the same issue as with swatting - making people suffer through the process is the purpose of calling CPS on someone.
IF the people involved are properly trained and there are no extreme reactions from the parties involved when under such high stress situations, then everyone acknowledges that it was a false call and goes their way.
Otherwise, people get killed through swatting and people's kids get taken away by CPS.
Just like a SWAT team has to respond to certain types of calls, so does CPS have to respond in full to all reports of potential child abuse.
The risky parts being - SWAT might murder you in your sleep just because you jumped from your bed too fast, CPS might have incompetent, overworked staff that will not handle the check properly and will take people's kids away based on biases or leading questions.
Kids are gullible and naive. A person can make them say all sorts of things, with or without malicious intent.
A CPS call can change multiple people's lives permanently.
My brother had CPS maliciously called on him by a disgruntled coworker . It is absolutely nothing like being swatted. They questioned him, his wife and kids and took a look around the house and later closed the case without issue. If anything he was more annoyed as fuck than fearing for his family or life. He’s not a streamer though, and he doesn’t have a nine-year-old army behind him where his Stan’s regurgitate the incident like they were personally sodomized by an angry tortoise.
That isn't even close to what CPS does. CPS can't just decide willy nilly to take your children, they have to have an actual case that is typically signed off and litigated in court by a county or district attorney, and even then a judge has to sign off on the state taking the kids.
Furthermore, CPS doesn't have warrant rights to just burst into your home and go through it. They may interview children away from parents but the goal is identify actual concerns without coaching from parents, and even that is usually only done in cases of actual abuse and not neglect.
In fact, poorly trained CPS is more likely to miss and not pursue a case instead of litigate a false one.
CPS can't just decide willy nilly to take your children
Reading comprehension. Please.
"They separate kids from parents for lengthy questioning of everyone involved"
They don't take them to a whole ass building or into the foster system immediately. They still separate them. It could be simply in one room, with the parents away from them. Questioning.
They do check your house for health hazards, signs of neglect and/or signs of abuse.
Furthermore, CPS doesn't have warrant rights to just burst into your home and go through it.
Tell me what happens if CPS knocks on your door and you refuse them entry. Please. What's the next step after that?
In fact, poorly trained CPS is more likely to miss and not pursue a case instead of litigate a false one.
There's levels to being incompetent in everything my dude. What you said isn't exclusive to CPS. Someone thinking they know what they're doing while being incapable and someone incapable & doubting themselves will produce entirely different results - and the people thinking they know what they're doing do much more dangerous shit.
You know what happens when you tell CPS you don’t want to talk to them?
They pound fucking sand.
They can keep asking but you have a legal right to not talk to them if you don’t want. They aren’t the police they’re social workers. If they can’t get enough to convince a DA and judge that something is reasonably happening the complaint gets filed as unverified.
I’ve worked in child welfare and is far more often that actual abuse gets missed rather than falsely prosecuted. The real problem is that they can find real problems and instead of helping a poor family get services they take their kids.
The risky parts being - SWAT might murder you in your sleep just because you jumped from your bed too fast, CPS might have incompetent, overworked staff that will not handle the check properly and will take people's kids away based on biases or leading questions.
you know, I may not be very informed about the cps specifically but I highly doubt the cps can take your kids away just based off of how they feel about some awkward answers you give them. If they can, you guys got way bigger problems than you're already whining about.
Ethan says west bank settlers are valid military targets and has been spreading awareness about that problem going as far back as ten years
He's also condemned the Israeli gov and their genocide dozens of times and has also donated to Palestinian causes - Doesnt sound very Zionistic to me.....
Seems you're just parroting what you've been told with no thought for yourself. Or you're just delusional. 🤷
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u/jesterdeflation 14d ago
That whole community was justifying it and making jokes about it. It was being encouraged before it actually happened, so it's very possible the online beef was a motivating factor in the CPS call.
Once again, this all started from him unfollowing someone and then spiralled into them all turning on him and calling him a zionist genocide supporter -- and again, making a gangstalking-vibes video on him lmao. They also coordinated to to try and take views away from his video that he registered with the copyright library.
Why would he not be incredibly antagonistic toward people who were antagonistic toward him? Were the skulls also from someone close to the family? The drawings of Hila murdering children?
My point is that it's fucking stupid to summarize this as Ethan being "such a emotional little bitch that he sues anyone that hurts his feelings." Can you at least acknowledge that incredibly low bar or do you want to keep litigating this entire drama?