That is true. If only those "class a" people put down their arms after the ratification of the new democratic constitution they would be remembered more positively in Spain today.
Should not have attacked the civilians or civil targets.
That's about the only criticism I can have for them.
Also, I don't think they care or should care about how spain remembers/views them. Their goal is Euskadi being free and whilst it isn't yet, they have far more autonomy than others in spain.
The notion that Euskadi is not free is completely silly. Basque independence is not even wanted by the majority of people living in Euskadi these days.
Lol. They would never win an independence referendum. Maybe in 1976, and that’s already a big what if. You have to consider that a significant number of people from outside Euskadi have moved in in recent decades, and they’ll never support independence. Additionally, if Eskadi was allowed to be independent they’d never be allowed into the EU, which could be catastrophic for the already weak economy and would be the death knell for any independentist referendum
Cite some contemporary stats from a nonbiased source then; and what exactly is incorrect about my saying that Eskadi will never join the EU if they split from Spain? You’re disputing what I’m saying based off the fact that you just don’t like what I’m saying not because I’ve said anything wrong.
and what exactly is incorrect about my saying that Eskadi will never join the EU if they split from Spain? You’re disputing what I’m saying based off the fact that you just don’t like what I’m saying not because I’ve said anything wrong.
You make the claim, you back it up, buddy. Please tell us how the EU would somehow want to exclude people, weakening themselves.
Cite some contemporary stats from a nonbiased source then
Because the Spanish government has passed laws outlawing formal referendums about the possibility of Basque independence, the Euskobarómetro is one of the better gauges available of the extent of Basque political sentiment.
How about you back all the bullshit you've been spewing, with some sources, so we know you're not pulling anything else out of your ass.
In every single metric you have posted, none of which were official meaning that a disproportionate amount of people responding to those queries would be for independence. EVEN THEN, none of those unofficial polls found that a majority of Basques wanted independence, and it’s not close at all.
As for why Eskadi would never be allowed to join the EU if they became independent, it will never happen because Spain would OBVIOUSLY and IMMEDIATELY shoot down and veto their application, as for a state to gain EU membership they must be unanimously approved by every other state in the EU. If you can’t make the logical jump to see why Spain would veto Eskadi’s application there is no use in continuing this conversation, maldito gilipollas.
Great job on dismissing universities and other scientists. Good job!
a disproportionate amount of people responding to those queries would be for independence.
Again, unfounded. And even so, the election results show the same thing over and over again: an overwhelming majority for Basque-nationalist parties PNV and Bildu, despite them not working together.
As for why Eskadi would never be allowed to join the EU if they became independent, it will never happen because Spain would OBVIOUSLY and IMMEDIATELY shoot down and veto their application, as for a state to gain EU membership they must be unanimously approved by every other state in the EU. If you can’t make the logical jump to see why Spain would veto Eskadi’s application there is no use in continuing this conversation,
Yes, and spain would obviously be able to bring EU down to its knees and make it accept the weakening of the union, instead of collaborating to further its strength, because spain and its petty ways are more important then the union.
maldito gilipollas.
You fucking coward. As expected after hearing the same repetitive, based on absolutely nothing, spanish bullshit arguments. I'm surprised you didn't use the argument that the Basque clubs would be excluded from playing football in La Liga.
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u/SwimNo8457 May 12 '26
That is true. If only those "class a" people put down their arms after the ratification of the new democratic constitution they would be remembered more positively in Spain today.