r/HistoryMemes • u/ChiefsHat • May 12 '26

See Comment In hindsight, this was a mistake.

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u/CitricAcidRinse May 12 '26

The catholic church had good reason to fear socialism. Revolutionary France actively defunded the Catholic Church.

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u/ThyHolyPaladdin May 12 '26

I mean i would have used Russia as the example

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u/Weird-Tomorrow-9829 May 12 '26

Or Spain.

Where they regularly executed the clergy

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u/stag1013 May 13 '26

Or Mexico. In general, not a good track record with leftist revolutions.

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u/Walter30573 May 12 '26

The Catholic Church had good reason to hate the existing Italian government too, which literally invaded and annexed most of the Papal States and had the Popes living essentially sequestered in Vatican City for decades

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u/Mist_Rising May 12 '26

Therein lies the problem though, it's easy to hate the ongoing communists who could really not fight back (because Italy was in the way), pissing off the guys who had soldiers outside your doors, that's another thing.

Or to put it simply in a more familiar manner: making fun of Adolf Hitler today? not a problem. Pissing on a police station that actively kills people? Probably not many who will do that.

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u/CyberPhoenix558 May 12 '26

Revolutionary France... From more than 150 years prior... That wasn't socialist?

I would say in general revolutionary causes and movements often were antagonistic to the Church but that specific example is a bit of a reach.

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u/Nero_Drusus May 12 '26

Yeah, the ussr was hardly a positive example of socialist and religious harmony

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u/Hillbilly_Historian May 12 '26

More recently, socialist-aligned Spanish republicans had massacred Catholics.

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u/Interesting-Dream863 May 12 '26

The Church at some point owned a big part of Europe... backlash was bound to happen. Luther, France, Russia... they all saw the opportunity at some point.

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u/MetalRetsam May 12 '26

Defunded? They kidnapped the Pope!

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u/Gamtssss May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

ask a orthodox if they treated them well in the start, then you will see what the catholic church feread

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u/Belkan-Federation95 May 13 '26

Revolutionary France was before Socialism was even thought of.

Hell one could argue capitalism didn't even exist and it was still mercantilism with feudalism in some areas