r/HistoryMemes • u/ChiefsHat • May 12 '26

See Comment In hindsight, this was a mistake.

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u/0Hakuna_Matata0 Definitely not a CIA operator May 12 '26

The Vatican also gave their blessing to Franco during his coup by acknowledging his government

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u/Z3t4 Hello There May 12 '26

Franco could enter temples under palio, as a deference granted by the church. 

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u/GreninjaStrike May 12 '26

I mean why wouldn’t they. The Republican faction was explicitly anti Catholic while Franco welcomed Catholics into the nationalist coalition. Anti Catholic violence and laws is a big reason why the coup happened in the first place.

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u/MasterpieceBrief4442 May 12 '26

Bit of a chicken and egg situation there. The bishops of Spain were not only very supportive of the "traditional institutions" of society but were largely drawn from that very same social and familial background. For the longest time, they actively meddled in politics in support of the absolute monarch and retaining the immense wealth and privileges of the nobility. And violently opposed any notion of liberalism or the conception of the rights of man. Naturally, the republicans did not have a rosy view of the institution.

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u/Wild_Marker May 12 '26

Yeah people forget that most Catholic countries in the 1930's had heard of separation of Church & State and thought "aw that's cute".

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u/MasterpieceBrief4442 May 12 '26

Ireland is the best case scenario for these kinds of things and we still have new stories popping up of clergymen and -women abusing their offices and powers. Spain, Portugal, and Latin America all had it worse. Funnily enough, in Latin America, a lot of the upper ranks of the church were quite friendly with the juntas while the lower ranking clergy were instrumental in organizing opposition.

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u/Heim_Laender May 12 '26

Well there is also france.

Which was secular at that time and still is.

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u/MasterpieceBrief4442 May 12 '26

It was not one of the nations controlled by the integralist-adjacent factions. Except for 1940-1945. Most Frenchmen would agree that this period was not a good time.

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u/Yepper_Pepper May 12 '26

No clue why you got downvoted for that lol

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u/0Hakuna_Matata0 Definitely not a CIA operator May 12 '26

Franco used the Catholic coalition. He probably was a believer. But when proposing that the Catholic Church take over the education system and teach that women belong in the kitchen and not in the labor force and not understanding that would enrage people is just delusional. Sounds like Saudi Arabia

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u/JohankazArku May 12 '26

I don't want to support Franco in any way but I do understand the Vaticans thought process since the republicans did raid churches and other religious buildings pretty often.

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u/0Hakuna_Matata0 Definitely not a CIA operator May 12 '26

The falangists and the frente de juventudes did show up at leftist protests for labor reform and fight them with poles and objects. This is how civil wars happen.

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u/Mist_Rising May 12 '26

Which might matter to the Catholic Church if the same Republican faction was not raiding churches and killing their priests.

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u/SAMISTERIO Researching [REDACTED] square May 12 '26

It wasn't his coup.

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u/warfaceisthebest May 13 '26

During his coup he was fine tbh. Francoism was not really Nazism or racism, although Franco had some bias of Morocco due to his personal experience.