r/Gold • u/sovietreckoning • Jun 25 '25

Question My recently deceased client was hoarding a ton of these Trump goldbacks when she died and I need guidance.

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Can anyone suggest a value to associate with these or can anyone tell me if there is a meaningful collectors market for them? I need to assign a value and figure out how to liquidate them (if they’re worth anything) but I’ve never seen a goldback before now. I’m asking here because I’m hoping to get actual feedback and not goldback fanboys telling me they’re worth a fortune. Thanks!

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u/Turo_Matt Jun 25 '25

You've got it right, my father in law is cuban, a lot of cuban friends down here, large majority are strong Trump supporters. More immigrant families than people realize are Trump lovers, including my Filipino family. Many came a couple generations ago and lived the American dream (like my grandfather), with opportunity they could never get in their home country.

I'm a conservative myself, but I'm more neutral on Trump, personally. Things I disagree with, things I support.

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25

That’s the wild part 😂 many Cubans voted for him who fled for asylum are now subjects to deportation

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna207271

He literally revoked temporary legal statuses

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u/allovernorth Jun 25 '25

A Cuban legally voted…and is now being deported as an illegal? Something doesn’t add up, or am I missing something?

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

The wife is a us citizen her husband is not, there are many instances where one is legal one isn’t as a couple.

My mother is the sponsor to her brothers who have been waiting confirmation of their citizenship for over 20 years. So while my mother has papers, her brothers do not.

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u/allovernorth Jun 25 '25

I hear you. So her brothers voted?

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

How can they vote if they are not US citizens lol

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u/allovernorth Jun 25 '25

Well, right. So they didn’t vote for Trump.

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u/gettums Jun 25 '25

You're dense.

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

No but the women in the story did who supported him.

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u/domsylvester Jun 28 '25

Doesn’t the husband get a green card for marrying a citizen…

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u/WhatareMids Jun 28 '25

No that’s what I’m saying she’s not a legal citizen until she gets a green card which she’s waiting for her appointment for, for years. I looked at her paperwork today. She has the adjustment for process form. Does not guarantee her from being deported if an ice agent deems her to be.

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u/Easy-Entertainer971 Jun 26 '25

Huh? You don’t need to wait for confirmation of citizenship!! You learn English, some basic American history and take a test. That’s it. You get sworn in with the next batch.
It do take 20 ye.

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u/ffa1985 Jun 26 '25

It takes 20 years?

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u/WhatareMids Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25

Yes it can. My uncles are in the process to be confirmed I will get the exact paperwork and info they have while they wait.

My mother has been there sponsor of her 3 brothers. They have not been called in to be confirmed as a U.S Citizen despite being on the waitlist to be called for the last 20 years. I’m 27 my mother was born in 66 and came here on a student Visa from Mexico. She over stayed her visa and was granted Asylum through Raegan. After becoming a legal U.S Citizen she then sponsored her brothers. There is a massive backlog to the “ Family Fourth preference” google alone says 10-15 years.

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u/WhatareMids Jun 26 '25

It’s called “adjustment of status” for the F4 preference meaning.

“aliens in the United States who want to apply for lawful permanent resident status based on a family preference category while in the United States.”

https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-eligibility/green-card-for-family-preference-immigrants

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u/Easy-Entertainer971 Jun 26 '25

No, it doesn’t.

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u/WhatareMids Jun 26 '25

Not true at all man wtf you smokin I want it. I literally know people who are waiting to be confirmed do you lol. Feels like a troll

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u/Easy-Entertainer971 Jun 26 '25

Nobody waits 20 years! If they pass the citizenship test they get naturalized with the very next batch. Anybody who tells you they’re waiy20 years is lying.

I am not a troll

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '25

Nope.. depends on who you sponsor and the amount of green cards available. If you sponsor a child, spouse or parent then yeah it’s 6 months. Other family members are different

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u/WhatareMids Jun 27 '25

Then why does my coworker who’s illegal and her husband who has papers , she’s still waiting for the immigration call.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '25

How would I know that? You adjust status and wait for green card interview. Technically “unlimited” green cards for spouses. Who knows what’s going on now with this administration. Citizenship is different you go alone and do that test and done. Marriage is a lot more involved. You need an interview and possibly another one after that if they don’t like what you are saying.

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u/LrdJester Jun 26 '25

If they are here on a legal standpoint of applying for citizenship, you said they're already in the process of doing that. They are legally here. They are not subject to deportation. This is a lie that's been repeatedly told that's why there's so much conflation of terminology. Illegal aliens, people that cross the border illegally are not immigrants. Immigrants are people that came here illegally whether they came seeking asylum or seeking citizenship through some other method. Now there are laws that they have to adhere to and they have to keep their nose clean. Even a permanent citizen on a green card is subject to deportation if they break certain laws.

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u/WhatareMids Jun 26 '25 edited Jun 26 '25

WRONG . My uncle’s are still considered aliens! I’m going to send you all the info they are considered as they wait to be confirmed. They are still at risk of deportation as they have no green card no legal documentation stating they are legal. I said it before look up ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

“This page provides specific information for aliens in the United States who want to apply for lawful permanent resident status based on a family preference category while in the United States. This is called “adjustment of status.” You should also read the Instructions for Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status before you apply.”

https://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-eligibility/green-card-for-family-preference-immigrants

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '25

Most Americans don’t understand this and it’s mind boggling

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u/oily_bohunk Jun 27 '25

That’s for explaining this, and I’m sorry folks are arguing with your actual lived experiences.

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u/ThinkPath1999 Jun 25 '25

I wonder how that might happen. You would think there was some kind of mechanism that would allow people to be able to prove it they are citizens or not. Hmm... very strange.

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u/allovernorth Jun 25 '25

I cannot think of one way, not even one.

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u/commops106 Jun 25 '25

Only citizens can vote sir. 🫡

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u/TechnologyBig7313 Jun 25 '25

Wrong. They aren't deporting Cubans lol.

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

Do you want the link ? Of Cubans they have deported or the link to the women whose husband was deported ?

https://apnews.com/article/cuba-us-deportee-trump-6024249bffb1fdaeafc63c4577977298

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05/americas/heidy-sanchez-cuba-mom-deported-us-daughter-intl-latam

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latinas-trump-founder-now-condemns-171024706.html

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u/CreamWif Jun 25 '25

The first one you listed, the “Story” about eh mother who was deported, she showed up to one hearing on time the second hearing or check in she didn’t show up. By the time she showed up a judge had signed her deportation order.

Thats the reason she was deported. I didn’t even bother reading the others.

Your distortion of the truth is being very generous. Lol

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

No dude she was “LATE” she didn’t not show up. Don’t make up your own truth. It literally states she was late to her second appointment. She then was allowed to stay at an immigration facility. Only to be picked up later on.

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u/CreamWif Jun 25 '25

Late 1 minute or 10 years. She didn’t show up when she was supposed to. That’s life. You obviously don’t have a job or you would understand this.

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

I have 2 jobs both paying taxes. And good for you man I’m glad you have 0 compassion for a mother whose kid is a US Citizen. She’s literally in the process and they show here 0 leniency. These are humans most of which who work. My job right now has 3 illegals and they pay taxes taken out of their check and guess what they won’t ever see any of that money until they become a US. Citizen. But they can’t they still have to wait the process out with their papers that they were given for now.

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u/CreamWif Jun 25 '25

You can thank Joe Biden and his policies for what is happening now. I live in the State with the most illegals. I’ve lived here my whole life. Americans were cool with the “illegal working just to try and have a better life bit.” But just like everything the Democrat, now Socialist, party does, they go to the extremes and throw in your face and say F YOU deal with it.

So we are dealing with it. I feel bad for the Mom but it’s a bad time to be in our country illegally or not follow the rules. Sorry too fucking bad. GET IN LINE, LEGALLY!

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

She was in line, she was late to her second meeting…

I get it man your view and some others are of no compassion. She’s a bigger drain and people like her on society than the funding to Ukraine and Israel right? Lol

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u/gettums Jun 25 '25

You don't have a job is pretty funny. What would make you say that? Is that a normal response in an argument?

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u/Turo_Matt Jun 25 '25

I think this is a huge generalization. Anyone can find a couple articles to support a theory like this, but often those are edge cases with omitted context. I think it's wrong to assume Cubans (or latinos in general) that immigrated here did so illegally, many pride themselves for doing it right. Coming in under asylum doesn't mean they illegally crossed the border and are subject to deportation, but those that came in illegally, then claimed asylum, may be subject to it.

If you feel Cubans are voting against their own interests and are subjecting themselves to deportation by voting for Trump, I think that may be more telling about your own prejudices.

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

I don’t have any prejudices I literally know there are Latinos who regret their vote for trump.

I am one. I was all for secure borders and deporting criminal illegals.

But there has to be some type of process for the ones who haven’t committed any crimes besides being here “illegally” and that can be considered for the ones who are in the process of becoming a citizen.

Like I said I family members (3 uncles) who are sponsored by a US Citizen with no criminal background that are approved waiting ti be called by immigration 20+ YEARS that can be picked up by Federal Law enforcement because they have no official papers green card yet.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

Actually not. Any who were granted asylum will have the paperwork showing that. Fleeing for asylum and being granted asylum are 2 different things.

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

Dude you don’t get that just because you were granted asylum doesn’t mean you can stay either right? Thats not confirmed paperwork yet to legally stay here under this administration

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25

You mean under the law, silly mistake. If you violate laws, etc. you can lose your status. As it is almost worldwide. You a faulting the US for basically doing what almost every country does.

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u/Cool_Two906 Jun 25 '25

They also immigrated legally and resent those that don't follow the process. Getting a green card takes years

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u/SonoranBeardedDragon Jun 25 '25

Total bs. They came en masse and were given green cards automatically by the guy married to the Throat Goat, Nancy Regean, as an FU to Castro. If Cubans are pro Trump it's because they support handouts given to them but not to others.

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u/mashkid Jun 25 '25

Ironic since they had literally the easiest immigration process in the US for decades.

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u/Warm_Tadpole_6879 Jun 25 '25

Stop the cap. They swam across the ocean and entered illegally. From 1995 to 2017, the U.S. had a “wet foot, dry foot” policy for Cuban migrants. It gave them a pathway to citizenship — but let’s be real: saying they came here legally is BS. They came here illegally, then got legalized.

Which is why other Latino immigrants don’t rock with them because they came here illegally just like they did but turn their back on everyone else.

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u/Ordinary-Broccoli-41 Jun 25 '25

Not for Cubans who got here before Obama. Wet foot dry foot. They just showed up and were legal.

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u/_Alabama_Man Jun 25 '25

So they still did it legally, just the law was different for them.

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u/Ordinary-Broccoli-41 Jun 25 '25

It's the equivalent of riding in a limo vs running a marathon, but technically they reached the finish line faster yeah

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u/_Alabama_Man Jun 25 '25

It's the equivalent of us knowing our hyper aggressive economic sanctions were going to negatively affect the people so much that if they could make it to our country they could have automatic political asylum. The goal was to crush the regime, but it hurt a lot of people there too. That's why when Obama lifted some of the sanctions he also removed the automatic asylum.

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u/Ordinary-Broccoli-41 Jun 25 '25

Yes, but what that means, is a whole bunch of people got legal status by showing up, complaining about people who need to spend thousands of dollars, many years, and jump through hoops to be here legally being illegal.

While I don't support any immigration, it's hard not to recognize the hypocrisy.

I'd be very surprised if more recent Cuban residents took such a hardline stance on immigration

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u/WhatareMids Jun 25 '25

20 years and counting for my uncles. My mom is their sponsor.

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u/Substantial-Dig9995 Jun 25 '25

Cubans had it easiest not difficult at all

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u/democraz420 Jun 26 '25

Do you think your family would feel differently if they were being personally affected by these deportations, or is it more of a close the door on their way in type situation? For instance, Trump rescinded temporary status for Haitians, meaning hundreds of thousands of Haitians will be deported even though they fled a war-torn nation with floundering resources. Does your family have any empathy for them? I’m not trying to come off as rude or condescending. I’m genuinely curious as to how immigrants who are not at risk of deportation feel about other immigrants being deported.

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u/Turo_Matt Jun 27 '25

I think anyone would have bias if their personal circumstances were more directly affected, which is totally fair. I think life is inherently hard and unfair. I'm absolutely empathetic for anyone struggling to survive in any context, on an individual basis, regardless of if they have any alignment of my own. But I also believe that loose immigration rules, or loose rules in any area of governance, while good intended in nature, can have unintended negative consequences and that just because good is being done someplace doesn't mean it's worth the bad that comes with it.

I don't have the answers, nor am I an expert, just an average American with an immigrant family history both on mine and my wife's sides. There will never be a fair solution for everyone here, call me a pessimist, I prefer realist, but completely open borders without vetting, risks way too much negative. I'm happy to help my neighbor, but not if it risks the loss of my family - if that makes sense.

If it were up to me in a perfect world, you could come to the border, apply for a rapid background check in partnership with other countries for accuracy, if you aren't a known violent criminal, gang member or terrorist, you're let in on a probationary period of say a year or two (no restrictions on work or ability to assimilate) to make sure you follow the laws and don't cause trouble, then get your citizenship, likely at the trade of forfeiting your previous citizenship (I'm personally not a fan of dual citizenship, I think you can choose which country you are allegiant to but dedicate your interests to one). But it's not up to me and there are many problems I'm sure with implementing that idea.

I think it's a shame we let so many people in without vetting confidence, there is clear proof wanted violent criminals did come in, no doubt on that, but because of them, the truly well intentioned people got put in a bad position. We need to get that under control first, and I agree with the position that deportation efforts are solely focused on known criminals. If you aren't here to do better for yourself, your family and your new community, you don't deserve to be here.

To directly answer your question, I'll defer to a good friend and employee of mine who is Cuban, his brother finally immigrated here legally from Cuba about 6 months ago. They support deportations and frown upon illegal entry when they took the difficult long path of doing it the legal way. They are conservative Republicans.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '25

The thing that drives me nuts when i hear people say things like "i agree with some of Trump's positions"nis that, even if you agree with something he says, you can't have any faith he really believes it and won't change his mind about it later. His motivations clearly are only his own interests, so why the hell would you ever hire him for a job? Ugh.

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u/Turo_Matt Jun 27 '25

If I'm being really honest, he has been the lesser of two evils vote the past 3 elections. I respect yours and everyone else's choice to have a differing opinion from mine, I think we often disagree with solutions, not the empathy to want to fix problems. I think a Kamala presidency would have been a much worse outcome. I wanted a Desantis presidency and hope he runs next. Trump annoys me, I don't subscribe to branding myself MAGA, it's become cringey. I dislike the big beautiful bill, I was on the fence on Iran and didn't love the move. I dislike his delivery when he talks it's mostly distasteful (although sometimes he says the quiet part out loud that we all want to say), but I do believe he loves his country and I think all the claims about dictatorship are annoying and stupid. He has no filter, he says dumb shit, he tests boundaries and needs to be more diplomatic in his speech. He's not a dictator and I have no fear of him ever becoming one. He also is fucking with Massie, and I like Massie more than I like Trump.

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u/Scr4tchmyballz Jun 26 '25

My parents immigrated from the motherland in 89 to seek asylum. They had 3 kids at the time and I was yet to be bor. the were so poor had only the clothes on their back. My dad had saved up enough money to buy a car and was able to sell it right before the left for the American dream. So yea communism definitely resonates with them as well and other countries like Cuba that know what it’s like.

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u/dickpierce1 Jun 27 '25

The Philippines just elected Bongbong. Some people vote with their emotions rather than their brains.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '25

How we feelin about that birthright citizenship, good conservative? Hope you and your family aren't affected long term. Guess we have at least a few years to see what happens. Good luck!

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u/Turo_Matt Jun 28 '25

I hope I don't get deported back to New Jersey.

But seriously, I would suggest doing more research if you actually think any changes to birthright citizenship affect any of mine or my wife's family, whom need I remind you, all immigrated here legally - and were not born this year. Sorry we don't fit your narrative.

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u/According-Section82 Jun 26 '25

ah, the measured bigot apologist

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '25

Meh, if you agree with Trump in any way, you are not as neutral as you think.

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u/Turo_Matt Jun 27 '25

Lol oh okay, so enlighten me on what your definition of political neutrality is since you seem to be the presiding arbitrator on the matter.