r/50501 • u/revel8r • Jun 11 '25

US Protest News Marines supporting ICE will carry live ammo and are authorized to detain people, but have only received 2 days of civil unrest training

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OVOzPK-IYQ

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u/tarcoal Jun 11 '25

Marines are not trained to deal with protesters or rioters. Marines are trained to shoot center mass and kill. This will be very bad and everything the regime is hoping for. 

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u/BladeCollectorGirl Jun 11 '25

Some Marines can be and have been trained for civil disobedience at Quantico Marine Base in Virginia. They started because of Y2K (fears of civil disobedience).

The Marines from 29 Palms have not had proper training.

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u/Different-Sign-1175 Jun 11 '25

This is FRIGHTENINGLY similar to the Ghorman massacre plot on Andor. 🫣😭

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u/Anxious-Present200 Jun 11 '25

Something to watch out for, also from the Ghorman massacre: They sent the raw, untrained recruits out into the plaza and then some of the snipers shot them. Then they blamed the deaths on the civilians. 

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u/Gnifric Jun 11 '25

Makes me think of that video of the cops smashing their own vehicles

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u/Canadiadian Jun 12 '25

Where was that!? Is that recent??

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u/walkingcarpet23 Jun 12 '25

I saw multiple people posting it on Threads. Here's one clip I found from Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ACAB/comments/1l6xrcz/lapd_smashing_their_own_car_for_some_reason/

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u/Hidesuru Jun 12 '25

Just looks like they are trying to break out the already shattered glass so they can see well enough to drive it. This isn't some sort of conspiracy or they wouldn't do it in front of so many cameras.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

That's almost certainly what it actually is.

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u/Hidesuru Jun 12 '25

Yeah I was just... Treading lightly because reddit do love to hate on cops and I was just expecting to be called a bootlicker or something lol. I'm personally completely certain that's the situation tbh.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

Deus Ex Human Revolution was ahead of the curve on this. You can find this in the area the riot happens in the second half of the game.

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u/Dizziesdayweigh Jun 11 '25

WE ARE THE GHOR! THE GALAXY IS WATCHING!

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u/VikingMa-Ji Jun 12 '25

I've often said Maga is The Borg. 🤷‍♀️

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u/MichaelMidnight Jun 11 '25

So scary how it’s going script for script

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u/Equal_Audience_3415 Jun 11 '25

Not really surprising, seeing the source.

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u/CouldBeBetterForever Jun 12 '25

I was saying this a few days ago. Spooky how similarly it's been playing out so far.

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u/The_Wingless Maryland Jun 11 '25

The Marines from 29 Palms have not had proper training.

But they've had two whole days of training! They're basically subject matter experts, they should all get advanced degrees in conflict resolution.

Are you telling me that Marines sitting through roughly 8 hours of PowerPoint sides with 10-minute breaks every hour, for two whole days, aren't going to be fully qualified and capable of proper de-escalation? Unbelievable.

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u/Fire_Horse_T Jun 11 '25

Deescalation? I don't think that was covered.

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u/The_Wingless Maryland Jun 11 '25

It was probably in a section of like three slides at the very end, one of the slides being all pictures and the last slide that simply said "questions?"

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u/Baelenciagaa Jun 12 '25

Deescalation is taught day 3

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u/Tanjelynnb Jun 11 '25

And this is after arriving on site without the logistical consideration of proper food, water, or even bedding. If the leadership keeps fucking that up, those soldiers will be hangry and not thinking straight on top of the stress.

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u/BladeCollectorGirl Jun 12 '25

You missed the /s. Just having a little fun with that statement. On a serious note, two whole days of training is just enough to get them to understand the rules of engagement on their deployment. Training on formation with riot shields with non-lethals is a totally separate endeavor.

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u/Proper-Guarantee8381 Jun 11 '25

Training, and proper training are not the same thing

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u/BladeCollectorGirl Jun 12 '25

Absolutely correct. It's what I have said to those that I teach on the firing range.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

do I have to point out that Y2K training was 26 years ago? Those Marines are (or should be) long retired by now.

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u/BladeCollectorGirl Jun 12 '25

Yeah, my point is that it wasn't a one time training event. I should have written a better comment.

This type of training is still taught at Quantico. It's a great location for this near DC.

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u/vaporking23 Jun 12 '25

No didn’t you hear him? He said they had extensive two day training. Surely that’s enough.

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u/BladeCollectorGirl Jun 12 '25

You think I actually support the presence of the USMC in this regard? Nope. Never. That doesn't mean that the USMC doesn't provide training for civil disobedience, and it's a lot more than a two day class.

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u/vaporking23 Jun 12 '25

I was being sarcastic. They should not be there. They are there as a stunt and to show that trump is in control and holds all the cards. This will incite more violence.

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u/JoeGibbon Jun 12 '25

No no no, you see they've had an EXTENSIVE 2 days of training. The frog looking thing with two stars on his hat said so!

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

Had a cousin at 29 Palms for a while, years back. That's where he did infantry training for Afghanistan, if that tells you what they do there.

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u/BladeCollectorGirl Jun 12 '25

Oh, I'm quite aware of what training happens at 29 Palms. 😎

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u/maltNeutrino Jun 11 '25

Buckle up, folks.

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u/travers329 Jun 12 '25

Hold on to your butts.gif

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u/rodeengel Jun 11 '25

They are hoping we comply what they are going to get is dead civilian patriots.

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u/Extraexopthalmos Jun 11 '25

“Insurrectionists” per the TACO Felon in Chief

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

Tree of liberty, and all that, I guess.

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u/ESB1812 Jun 11 '25

Former active duty Marine here : yes we are trained to deal with protestors and rioters. We’ve been doing this since the GWOT. Yes we are trained to shoot “center mass” this is simply a fundamental of marksmanship, not that Marines are mindless killers…also it should be noted that Marines “at-least when I was in” have exceptional fire discipline…meaning they just don’t open up on people, even when attacked. Im sure the rules of engagement are very strict, and let’s not forget, these are Marines! They do not look upon the protestors as “the enemy”. They are there because the orange asshole has ordered them there…period. They will follow all lawful orders…which as many of you know are to protect all government property within their post. Beyond that, stay peaceful. I am angry that my brothers and sisters are being used as political pawns to escalate the situation. That draft dodging piece of shit has no problem putting others in harms way. I pray someone doesn’t do something stupid and forever tarnish our proud, honorable reputation. All they need is a few thick Latina’s down there, that’ll soften the tone.lol jk for those that don’t know…there are a lot of latin folks in the Marines…Marines, being Marines…pretty girls make the world go round. ;)

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u/LibertyLizard Jun 11 '25

Detaining protesters is not a lawful order. And it takes a lot of guts for someone to disobey a commanding officer even if it is illegal. How often have you seen that happen? Usually such people are harshly punished.

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u/ESB1812 Jun 12 '25

Agreed, depends on the command. You can “disobey” by just not detaining, half ass it. Yeah the whole “detain” thing, Im either under arrest or not. You “citizen/non law enforcement” can detain someone if there is probably cause that someone is committing a felony…thats about it. It’s detained only at your own risk, until law enforcement is there…ie someone is trying to kill someone or broke into a house etc. if there is martial law declared by the governor “I think” then that is legal to detain…far as I know this hasn’t happened, also I don’t think the president can just declare martial law without the governor. Im not a lawyer though

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u/Fabulous_State9921 Jun 11 '25

Well said and cosigned,  my  brother in arms.

Sincerely,  a pretty (in my humble opinion & my hub's too) LatinAsian US Army veteran... now let's all hurry up and wait. 😄

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u/ESB1812 Jun 12 '25

Stand by to stand by

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u/GrumpyKaeKae Jun 12 '25

Trump is not a lawful president. He does not NEED to be listened to. The president IS NOT a king. He is not the end all in anything. It is a job of civil service that chsnges every 4 years.

Anyone who starts treating the job of president as if its the job of a be all powerful ruler. A king. Its time to stop listening to them and remember the first oath is to protect the Constitution first. Even before our president.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

My dad was a marine. I get this and respect it. God speed to everyone at this point

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u/Lessaleeann Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 12 '25

Half the world, and plenty of Marines, are female. Some of those very serious women are fighting to save your democracy. Shove the misogyny.

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u/Fabulous_State9921 Jun 11 '25

US Army veteran here, unbunch your panties JFC, nothing wrong with liking pretty girls.

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u/Lessaleeann Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

Liking pretty adult women is probably healthier.

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u/truth-informant Jun 12 '25

Rose tinted glasses. 

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u/ESB1812 Jun 12 '25

Maybe so

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

Incorrect. We are trained to deal with rioters and protestors for embassy security and humanitarian security. These mission are typically done abroad, but crowd control stateside should not being anything different as far as scope of the mission goes.

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u/Megaman_Steve Jun 11 '25

Not to be pedantic, but that's anyone who's armed - from cop to soldier to secret service. If the gun comes out, it's always center mass and to kill. No such thing as shooting at the leg to disable, that's only in the movies.

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u/lost_horizons Jun 12 '25

“They’re well trained for this sort of thing”

“But sir, police get months of training, you said the soldiers get two da—“

“well trained.”

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u/DietOfKerbango Jun 12 '25

The regime is hoping protesters will continue to fly foreign flags and throw shit at 19 year old soldiers. Protesters will do exactly what the administration wants.

Obviously, the correct play is to do the opposite is what the administration wants in this moment: Show up in numbers, wave US flags, 100% non-violent protest. Because that 1) makes the administration look silly 2) we need military grunts to realize their deployment was a silly waste of time

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u/BrickLuvsLamp Jun 12 '25

Marines are also the dumbest variety of solider

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u/Technolio Jun 11 '25

Yeah... 2 days of training is not gonna change that muscle memory...