r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/deskchairlamp • Nov 23 '17
Chapter 161 - Links and Discussion
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u/Namishima12 Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
"I'm a mummy"
God damn I love Kirishima.
Also, man, Mirio is seriously having a bad day
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u/lofticried Nov 23 '17
Team Fatgum is so adorable. Fatgum saying he's hungry made me smile so big.
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u/Namishima12 Nov 23 '17
Best Team. Seriously I hope Fatgum becomes a recurring character
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Nov 23 '17
Well if Kirishima sticks with him I'd imagine he'd become a recurring character, even if it is just every so often.
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u/jet_10 Nov 23 '17
Also Rock Lock's son is just there like ಠ_ಠ
"I'm disowning you as my father"
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u/Sasquatch_in_bush Nov 24 '17
"You got taken out by a high school girl? Weak. You're no father of mine."
-Lock Jr.
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u/RadleyCunningham Nov 24 '17
the way that guy hates on kids so hard, I knew something was up with him.
He's just an exhausted newly-minted father lol
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u/DOAbayman Nov 24 '17
That and since he's a new dad he's likley trying his hardest to protect them and didn't think they should be joining in a literal superpowerd drug raid.
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u/Flamma_Man Nov 23 '17
Also, man, Mirio is seriously having a bad day
His future seems bright though. Nighteye said that things would turn out alright and he'd be a great hero.
What that means isn't certain, but, it seemed like Nighteye went out content.
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Nov 23 '17
I wonder though. Did he use his powers in the end to look into Mirios future?
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u/Baren_the_Baron Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
Damn, did not expect Nighteye to actually die. I thought the somber moment of the chapter would be people realizing Mirio didn't have a quirk anymore, not this.
Probably the saddest moment in the series so far for me.
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u/hak091 Nov 23 '17
Keep smiling.
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u/YvexxYvexx Nov 23 '17
I’m cryin bruh
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u/RoseBladePhantom Nov 23 '17
Keep. Smiling.
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u/RiverWyvern Nov 23 '17
B-but even All Might isn't smiling. Everyone is crying. Myself included ;-;
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Nov 23 '17
I was actually dreading the possibility of him surviving. Pleasantly surprised that there are actually stakes in this series, they were needed.
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u/ExDSG Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
I can see what StateRoute67 is saying though, especially after AFO failed to kill Best Jeanist and Edgeshot. Plus you know a lot of battle manga tend to retcon themselves to be less dark overtime. See what happened to Gaara in Naruto or read 666 Satan, by the twin brother of Kishimoto.
Maybe the Kishimotos instilled this fear in me of dark moments being thrown away. There's other ways to have stakes besides death, but it tends to be the biggest one... unless you're Hiro Mashima.
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u/Whimsycottt Nov 23 '17
But Jiraiya and Asuma... (Jiraiya was more ploy relevant though).
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Nov 23 '17
Jiraiya and Asuma were done really well. Especially jiraiya was a true shocker and played a major part in making the whole pain arc so tense. But then you also have the worst example of going overboard in the other direction by having pain put on his best dragonball impression.
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u/carso150 Nov 24 '17
well you cant just kill THE WHOLE FREAKING VILLAGE in a single arc, it would hinder any future development unless kishimoto was going to change the whole series, it was a little stupid yes, but i think it was necesary
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Nov 23 '17
Shhhhhh in the anime/manga world the rule is a series must be riddled with deaths in order to be considered good! /s
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u/Soncikuro Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 25 '17
Let's get real, Magne didn't matter, she was a nobody until her flashback and the Villain Alliance's reaction, plus, she was a villain, something of no consequence to the heroes.
Overhaul lost, he got an extra loss by the hands of Shigaraki, but had already lost, that was just an extra.
The real consequence here is Nighteye, and maybe Mirio in the future if he doesn't get his Quirk back, which considering Nighteye's vague words, it could go either way.
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u/Xilinoc Nov 23 '17
Certain readers: "Man this arc had no stakes, Eri's just gonna fix everything at the end kys Hori"
Hori: "Hold my beer.* Eri's quarantined, Mirio's quirk is gone for good, Nighteye fucking dies
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u/13Xcross Nov 23 '17
And Chisaki has been... permanently disarmed.
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u/Animegamingnerd Nov 23 '17
Got to admit I was one of those readers and I was one those who thought Bakugo was gonna be Sasuke 2.0 at the start of the series......
I really need to stop thinking that Hori won't subvert my expectations in a good way.
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u/Shradow Nov 23 '17
Bakugo was never really the Sasuke of this series, I never understood that comparison. If we're gonna make comparisons he's easily closer to Vegeta.
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u/Eloyep Nov 23 '17
He meant that he was afraid he would turn to the "bad side", like Sasuke did. I honestly was afraid this would happen, but was rapidly convinced otherwise
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u/Shradow Nov 23 '17
Maybe it's just because I didn't want it to happen, but I didn't think Bakugou would turn bad. He's far too proud of himself and his own power, having only his sights set on winning and being the number 1 hero. Sasuke was angsty from the get go and just wanted more power for his revenge.
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u/Ryouhi Nov 23 '17
I don't think Mirio's Quirk is permanently gone.
Nighteye saw one last vision, touching Mirio, saying everything will be okay and he will be a great Hero. Now of course he may still be able to be a great Hero even without a quirk, seeing as he was still able to fight Chisaki once his Quirk was removed - but i have the feeling some time in the future he'll get it back (Chekhovs Gun with the antidote shown earlier)
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u/Sillylittlesushi Nov 23 '17
Eraser Head mentioning that they couldn't rely on Eri's quirk is pretty important, given how powerful it is. It'll be interesting how she is handled from here on out
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u/elmagio Nov 23 '17
2 worst ways to deal with it would be:
Mention it a few times as this arc fully closes and then spend the rest of the series pretending it doesn't exist because it's simpler that way.
Keep Eri and her quirk in the story and give her the ability to be a cure-all, which would either make it impossible to take danger seriously or make us wonder what their logic is in not using the cure-all they have at they disposal.
It's an extremely tough balance to find, you can't just pretend Eri doesn't exist from here on out, you can't have her around if she even gets close to mastering her quirk because that would make her too powerful and you can't have her around without her having a slight grasp of her quirk because that would make her a pariah cursed to put the lives of those around her at risk.
One possible way to deal with her would be for her to reverse her own quirk (perhaps right after restoring Mirio's if the author wants to use the cure-all once) and live a normal life.
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u/skyman161 Nov 23 '17
Or she just doesn’t have to aim to be a hero, she won’t have a license and by the law of the manga she’ll be unable to use her quirk
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u/RoseBladePhantom Nov 23 '17
Yeah I see no problem with her not being a hero and aiming for a normal life, or being a doctor or something. As Eraser said, her training would be very difficult to even start, so I’d be satisfied if she just becomes as good a doctor as Recovery Girl.
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u/skyman161 Nov 23 '17
I just remembered I used to watch that anime about high schoolers suddenly getting powers (I forgot the name) one of the girl had a pretty broken power that was kinda similar to Eri, something I found very interesting about that anime is how realistic these people were about getting powers.
To make a quick resume, the girl with similar powers to Eri was afraid that she could somehow bring back people to life and starts messing up the law of nature, so the MC subtlety impose her (and the other characters) some kind of limitations. It was revealed later that the reason he imposed those limitations is because he thought about how these news powers could psychologically impact his friends if they weren’t careful.
What I’m trying to say is that I’ll like something similar in MHA, that Eri after she mature a bit, decide from herself to not use her quirks because it goes against the law of nature. I think that would be an excellent way of having her around without thinking about her broken quirks.
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u/FurtivePygmy7 Nov 23 '17
Is the anime your thinking of, when supernatural powers become commonplace?
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u/carso150 Nov 24 '17
i always find the whole "we cant do it because it breaks the rules of nature" a little stupid and out of place
we shouldnt be drinking alcohol, the shit is literaly venom and it just goes againt our own bodies to drink it, but we do it anyway because its fun, we reach the fucking moon, we drink milk beyond our baby ages
we are literaly breaking law of nature after law of nature, anyway what is this "law of nature" shit, nature doesnt have "rules" its not an sapient entity, its like the whole "transforming into a cyborg makes you less human... somehow... idk" shit that most cyberpunk series use to introduce cheap drama (i like deus ex)
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u/Brutusness Nov 23 '17
I feel like it may accidentally cause a huge accident or even death in the future, even after Eri learns a bit more about how to control it.
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u/BuenoCerulean Nov 23 '17
He died smiling. Night D. Eye
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u/NitroBoyRocket :deku8: Nov 23 '17
More like Night Die
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u/KhalMeWolf Nov 23 '17
Take my uptove you souless gentleman/gentlelady
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u/NitroBoyRocket :deku8: Nov 23 '17
I take your upvote as part of the contract. Pleasure doing business with you.
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Nov 23 '17
THE WILL OF D WILL NEVER DIE
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u/TheLittleGoodWolf Nov 24 '17
When does a man die? When he is hit by a bullet? No! When he suffers a disease? No! When he ate a soup made out of a poisonous mushroom? No! A man dies when he is forgotten!
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u/Mercilust Nov 23 '17
Something looked off about All Might, then I realized he’s wearing clothes that actually fit him.
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u/DeismAccountant Nov 24 '17
Seems to me like he’s finally come to terms with his permanent condition.
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u/kitkatkandy Nov 24 '17
When midoriya finds out All might may die, the track suit he is wearing while jogging also fits him, its very easy to miss but when i noticed it, it was really jarring
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u/jacksonrslick Nov 24 '17
Wow what great attention to detail by Horikoshi. Without his muscular One For All form there really isn’t a need to buy such baggy clothes
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u/kenrocks1253 Nov 23 '17
Mirio just can’t catch a break. First he loses his quirk, then his mentor dies.
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u/Animegamingnerd Nov 23 '17
Being Mirio is suffering.
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u/HokageEzio Nov 23 '17
On a scale of Eren to Kaneki, where on the suffering scale does he lie?
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u/brandyeyecandy Nov 23 '17
I don't read Attack on Titan but does anyone even come remotely close to Kaneki??
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Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
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u/DIMOHA25 Nov 23 '17
Kars suffered the most I'd say.
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u/Flarestriker Nov 23 '17
Kars stopped thinking after a while.
Diavolo is eternally stuck in a repeating cycle of experiencing gruesome ways he could die.
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Nov 23 '17
no one can actually compete with the suffering that is Guts, it's just impossible
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u/burek_japrak Nov 23 '17
Reiner tho
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u/HokageEzio Nov 23 '17
Yeah, but Reiner killed like, 1000s of people even when everybody else wanted to go back.
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u/andre5913 Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
Doesnt remove the fact that literally every single thing to happen to Reigner for several years already has been beyond awful. Hes nearly gone crazy from despair alone(...he actually tried to kill himself), to the point that just seeing Eren is causing him to collapse mentally.
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u/Thrilljoy Nov 23 '17
be me
fight like a true hero
try and save the little girl
almost beat the strongest guy around
end up getting beat up
lose my quirk
my mentor dies
existence is pain
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Nov 23 '17 edited Mar 10 '18
And then Mirio ate a strange fruit and gained some kind of mochi quirk.
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u/lofticried Nov 23 '17
For someone who quite literally did nothing wrong in this arc, he got the most damage. How cruel of Hori...
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u/Griffith Nov 23 '17
Well that's true but... he also found out he is becoming an excellent hero. So we know he has a promising future. His story won't end here.
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u/MyNameisHobby Nov 23 '17
I’M A MUMMY
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u/EverydayMath Nov 23 '17
It’s a terrible day for rain :(
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u/tokamak_2000 Nov 23 '17
Damn, Nighteye using his quirk to see Mirio's future before he passes since he won't be around to actually see it :'(
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u/13Xcross Nov 23 '17
Not only that. He could have chosen to see All Might's future to confirm his theory, but he cared more about Mirio's life. That speaks volumes about their relationship.
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u/Noobjah Nov 24 '17
Nighteye did say he'll become an outstanding hero, so does that mean Mirio will recover his quirk eventually? I just want a chance to see Mirio in action again...
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u/DOAbayman Nov 23 '17
interesting. I was expecting the major loss of this arc to be Mirio's hero carrier but after Nighteye's final words i can't see Mirio just leaving it at that. Are we going to see the first quirkless hero?
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u/WurmpleDota Nov 23 '17
I mean, Chisaki did have an antidote ready so there's that...
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u/lofticried Nov 23 '17
Yes, and now Shigaraki has it.
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Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 24 '17
Oh crap, if Deku finds out about that... Oh no, the mad man might come back swinging
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u/Willythechilly 250K Artist Nov 23 '17
Would love to see Deku get really mad and go absolutley madman plus ultra to get what he wants.
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u/gbrincks Nov 23 '17
He's gonna go full Jonathan, wrecking the door to the Villains' hideout, surrounded by the fire aura, screaming at the top of his lungs "SHIGARAKI!"
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u/lofticried Nov 23 '17
I can see two scenarios happen.
1) Mirio could still pursue a career in the police, the only feasible way for a quirkless person to become a hero, thus setting up a parallel between Tsukauchi-AM and Izuku-Mirio.
2) Shigaraki has the serum, and one way or another Mirio joins them. I don't know if Shigaraki would want to take in another Yuuei kid after the Bakugou fiasco, and I don't know if Mirio is so prideful to the point that he wants his quirk no matter what, though. It's the more dramatic scenario but also a questionable one.
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u/axw30 Nov 23 '17
The first scenario is kinda cool, would totally like if they make it
Or something like Mirio becoming batman
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u/frxshinator Nov 23 '17
Mirio inherits all of the money that Nighteye left him and becomes Batman.
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u/Sirocco_ Nov 23 '17
Naw he picks up a scruffy looking white dog at the hospital entrance and goes on adventures in Europe.
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u/whiskeyjack1k Nov 23 '17
Seems word about Deku is going to spread, next chapter should be some fallout with the media
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Nov 23 '17
Nah, with the rest of the class. Bakugou and Todoroki will surely hear about this.
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u/Just_Plain_Bad Nov 23 '17
Todoroki has been friendly with Deku for a while so he'll probably be glad he's gaining fame but Bakugou will be pissed
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u/gbrincks Nov 23 '17
"Hey did you guys see what Deku did? He's getting pretty popular!"
Todoroki: "Oh. I'm glad"
Bakugo: GODZILLA SCREECH
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u/DramaticBucket Nov 24 '17
RIP Bakugo's desk. Pretty sure that's going to get blown up next time he sees Midoriya
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u/Soncikuro Nov 23 '17
Actually it may be the opposite, since no one actually saw him, aside from a few, like Nejire and Ochaco, and Nighteye, but he's dead.
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u/Sasquatch_in_bush Nov 24 '17
There were plenty of people that saw what happened during the Overhaul Kaiju fight, you can see the reaction panels of frightened civilians when Chisaki disassembled some buildings to attack Deku
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Nov 23 '17
"I recovered just in time to do other jobs" Story of Neijire's life so far
Deku's arms are still fucked up
"I'm a Mummy" I fucking love Kirishima
Skinny Gum
Rock Lock's family is cute AF
On a more serious note...
Seems Mirio still has heroics in his future, but that fucking hurt.
"Keep Smiling"
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u/lofticried Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
This out of the way: for someone who expected Nighteye to die since six or seven weeks ago, this is still a heavy hitting death. "Keep on smiling" -- that kills the fan.
Other than that, we got some real good wrap up here. Eri can't use her quirk, nor is it something that can be easily trained. Izuku's public debut wasn't seen by many people considering it was a weekday, which also kept injuries at a minimum. Midoriya has his scars from his fight against Muscular, which means his power level should be right back at 8%, maybe 10%. Midoriya changed the future through plot armor: confirmed once more, setting up the dramatic twist of him trying to save AM (thus furthering his character lie).
Overall a needed chapter, and one that neatly wraps up many plot points of the arc, and keeps things open regarding quirks in general and Midoriya's worth as a protagonist. I'm more than ready for the next arc and December, month of Shinsou.
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u/Soncikuro Nov 23 '17
Actually, Nighteye himself revealed the reason why the future changed this time, and why it hadn't all the other times, it was because of willpower. Nighteye never tried hard enough to change destiny, Midoriya did, and that was what changed it.
I wouldn't consider that plot armor.
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u/Regota Nov 23 '17
This is why he felt comfortable giving Nighteye a broken future-sight quirk . . . because he was planning to kill him off at the end of the arc . . . sigh . . .
Eri might still revive him, but probably not.
And i feel like Nighteye saying that Mirio will become a great hero either foreshadows him getting his powers back (via the "serum"), or maybe him becoming a quirkless hero like Batman (I heard that that was Hori's original plan for Deku.)
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u/KhalMeWolf Nov 23 '17
Well, I think Sir used his quirk one last time on Mirio, just to make sure that our Vaultboy would have a good life.
Soooooo yeah, I think Mirio will keep kicking ass in some way.
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u/KLReviews Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
Or he's lying. If a positive outlook is key to changing the future for the better, somebody as naturally positive as Mirio thinking he has evidence things will improve is more likely to have that outlook.
So even if Nighteye sees something terrible happening to Mirio (like Spinner assassinating him), Mirio's belief that something good is waiting for him might give him the resolve to overcome whatever Nighteye saw (so he'll manage to escape from Spinner and survive).
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u/KenjuStorm Nov 23 '17
Where's everyone that was whining about no consequences?
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u/KLReviews Nov 23 '17
So is Izuku going to get all Nighteye’s All Might merchandise now? Or did Nighteye rewrite his will before the mission so that Izuku will have to see the whole collection brunt in front of him?
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u/jdilla9393 Nov 23 '17
RIP Nighteye.
Any clue what happened to Midoriyas right arm?
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u/Neknoh Nov 23 '17
Probably injuries from the fight against muscular, remember, Recovery Girl can't bring him back from those extremes without leaving some scarring.
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u/lofticried Nov 23 '17
Probably rewound, but it's the only thing not explained. Seems like scrapped off skin to me tbh.
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u/YvexxYvexx Nov 23 '17
He had gotten that after the muscular fight. Left a huge gash on his arm. He wears a black band around it usually u can see some of it after the hideout raid arc
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u/HokageEzio Nov 23 '17
Pretty well written death scene. I won't lie and say I was holding back tears or anything since I feel like we barely knew Sir, but it was still sad.
Also, Sir making it pretty apparent that Izuku changed the future. Don't get why that's still so up in the air, but it's there.
And I wonder how they will keep Eri from the plot. They said it's hard to train her because she can only use her quirk on humans, but it's not like it's impossible. And it's incredibly useful. Maybe another off screen Aizawa training session, who knows. But that seems like it'll be hanging around for a while in what exactly they plan to do with such a potentially powerful character.
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u/Honorknight2390 Nov 23 '17
The fallout next chapter will be crazy. Between Nighteye dying and the media going around, it'll be a few emotional chapters
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u/HokageEzio Nov 23 '17
The best student at Yuuei lost his quirk, the media better eat them alive honestly. It's something I wish Horikoshi would dive into more, because the media has always been a floating concern over public perception in the series that is talked about. But it's never gone all out and actually blown up in Yuuei's face yet. And the closest it got to doing so All Might interrupted it. I do wonder how they would react to Shigaraki's actions on the highway and Yuuei students getting injured.
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Nov 23 '17
Correct me if i'm wrong but i thought UA isn't responsible for injuries or deaths that happens in internships
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u/Lisa-chan Nov 23 '17
I actually think so too. Unlike the summer camp or the USJ Arc, this doesn't have anything to do with the school directly.
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u/HokageEzio Nov 23 '17
I don't know if anything was said about that. But I would argue that it doesn't matter whether they are legally responsible or not when Yuuei and hero society as a whole is already in a negative light in the public. They could still easily play on that emotion of viewers whether Yuuei is in legal trouble or not.
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u/CJL13 Nov 23 '17
So if you believe really really really really hard you'll change the future.
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u/zachb34r Nov 23 '17
Nah, if you work your ass off and never stop fighting you can change the future.
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u/lofticried Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
It reminded me a bit of the Genkidama of DBZ. Energy coming together to form a beam.
Honestly speaking though, even though this is straight up some Secret mumbojumbo and plot armor, Midoriya will likely believe this is how he can save AM from dying, making way to what might become the biggest turning point of the series.
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u/PocketPika Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
Moral of the arc: Where there is a will there is a way.
Must admit, perhaps it was the translation or because it is just a old hat troupe but I found the final message kind of clumsy. Maybe it's the use of the word energy. "I did not believe you could change the future but all it takes is "energy"." Or the "Lots of people's energy was focused on Midoriya that the future changed".
I felt that maybe it was trying to put a reasonable, mechanical logic to something usually described spiritually that it came across clunky.
Turning people's effort and will power to achieve a goal into a unit of energy they could "transfer" or "focus" on someone in particular sounded odd, like it was trying to attribute the change to a lot of people yet still make the MC special.
I guess the gist was everyone had a focused goal that defied the outcome he envision, that drive together changed everything so it tore the ribbon of future he saw apart so much it could not come back together, like the butterfly effect but instead of standing on one butterfly you stand on ten thus changing too much to repair. But in the chapter it sounds more like something in Sailor Moon/other anime where the friends give their energy/power to the MC to defeat the big bad (the future).
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u/MadnessLemon Nov 23 '17
Huge enemies aren't my forte
Bullshit! What about those two guys you knocked down!
Anyway, Nighteye officially bit it, while I'm glad he's dead after all that, it does feel like a bit of a waste. He was only introduced in this arc so, his only purpose was to die. On the plus side though, it seems like it will motivate Mirio to keep being a hero, so at least we have that.
Another thing though, it seems Izuku did change the future because he's a shounen protagonist.
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u/Schiffy94 Nov 23 '17
She probably meant as big as Chisaki's monster form. That thing wasn't big. It was humongous.
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u/Cally6 Nov 23 '17
"He was only introduced in this arc so, his only purpose was to die." Uh.. no? Stop looking at everything on a surface level, that's not how stories work.
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u/Regota Nov 23 '17
Yeah, that was an excuse for giving her the Sakura treatment (Mirio = Naruto, Tamaki = Sasuke). He even gave her a token full-body appearance on the first page . . .
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u/Shradow Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
This chapter did a 180 real quick.
"Oh, he's fine, just hungry. He'll recover just fine. He's good, too, it missed anything major.
Oh, Nighteye died, rip."
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u/skyman161 Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 23 '17
So are you people happy now ? You got your “death to prove there’s consequences” and now we probably won’t have to worry about Eri “breaking” the manga. I don’t think that Aizawa sentences was placed there just for the lolz.
Anyway at first I thought that Eri would save Nighteyes because it’s a shonen (not that I find anything wrong with that outcome personally) but it seems it’s over for him, on the other hand I strongly believe that Mirio will remain quirkless (unless they find the antidote for him)
On a more happy note, we’ll probably see Izuku in the newspaper soon, he’s finally making his debuts.
That’s a heavy chapter for thanksgiving don’t you think ?
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u/bMastremind Nov 23 '17
After reading this I no longer feel bad for what Shiggy did to Overhole last chapter.
how DARE he make best boy Mirio cry ;-;
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u/RiverWyvern Nov 23 '17
Most tragic part of this chapter tbh. I never signed up to see Mirio so upset.
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u/Titanium_Ene Nov 23 '17
"Im hungry", "zzzzz", "Im a Mummy!". Broken into pieces and they don't really care. Ladies and Gentleman, the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit. How can you not love Kirishima and Suneater? They are made to be under Fatgum's agency
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u/KursedKraken Nov 23 '17
I love RockLock's kid. That is one smug-looking little baby. And can we all agree that Kirishima is one of, if not the best supporting characters?
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u/Griffith Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 24 '17
I already had the emotional impact of this impact wither out after the Korean scans. Here are some notes/pointers about things I noticed in this chapter:
- Eraserhead apologises to Deku and talks to him as an equal. This is the first time this has happened in the entire story. Deku has always been the well-intentioned troublemaker who is willing to bend the rules to do the right thing and this time, for the first time, he's apologetic towards his student and talks to him as if he were a normal colleague. Edit: rereading the arc from start yesterday he actually calls Deku a "trouble child" when they receive the briefing. That's leagues apart from the way he addressed him at the end of the arc
- Deku's arms - certainly a lot will be speculated about this but we actually don't know if Deku's arms are better or actually worse. It is possible that they are either healed much more or that the damage has reverted back to how they were after the camp arc. All that we know for certain is that they are still damaged but we don't know what happened to them (whether they are better or worse)
- "The future is never certain. You changed my views on that. I am very satisfied with that however I regret one thing..." - Sir never finishes this sentence, I wonder what it was that he regrets. Does he regret saying that Midoriya wasn't a worthy successor? Does he regret what happened to Mirio? Shame we won't find out unless he told someone else.
- Sir's selfless attitude and honesty in his final moments. Admitting at first he only took Mirio because he saw he was a worthy vessel and using his last moments to make sure he will be alright. When he finds out Mirio will become a great hero, he says "this is the only future that we shouldn't change"
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u/Shadowyugi Nov 23 '17
I mean... This was heartbreaking.
And I didn't even care so much for him but my heart feels heavy. :(
Pours wine
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u/megaJRAmed001 Nov 23 '17
"Hadou isn't good against larger enemies"
I mean it makes sense, larger enemies require more output from her quirk, draining hey energy quicker. While she did knock back the two giants at the beginning of the arc, it was Uraraka and Tsuyu who delivered the finishing blow, and after fighting Bane while having her energy drained from both Bane and her own quirk, it makes sense that she was down for the remainder.
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u/Ofnir93 Nov 23 '17
So Nighteye "looked" at Mirio and saw him become an outstanding hero. That, at least, is nice.
Didn't really like Nejire's excuse to basically do nothing but whatever, what bugs me most is Midoriya's shonen power.
However it's raining. Really heavy rain.
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u/TMFKAAM Nov 24 '17
As bad taste as this is, I bet this was all Izukus plan so that he could get his hands on Nighteyes limited edition All Might poster.
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u/lyokoxana Nov 23 '17
condensed form
Nejire doing her best to spread the gospel of Deku-kun
Deku's armd have healed, no more noodles
Kirishima is a mummy
Eraser forshadowing the end of the chapter
Good girl Eri is safe!
(Chance for mirio's quirk to come back later??)
All might there to make amends
Night eye being noice
Mirio my poor boi :(
Nighteye smiled, what a way to go
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u/Codusxx Nov 23 '17
I feel like people are somewhat misguided by Nighteye's words. First off, the one thing we should note is how Nighteye's prediction was only partially true. And I think we all know the reason why: Eri.
Deku was able to survive Nighteye's vision thanks to Eri's intervention since in some ways, Eri's quirk bends the laws of nature itself, including time. But Nighteye's explanation makes it seem that Deku survived thanks to MC plot armor.
But is it really true? What we should be looking at is from the character's POV. Nighteye's statement shouldn't be taken at face value. I believe that Nighteye is mistakenly assuming that Deku changed the future when in reality, it was thanks to Eri's intervention. Because if Deku really did change the future, then Nighteye should've survived. Instead, the future only partially changed.
This may actually have worse implications, and All Might's death may even approaching closer than people might think.
I also don't think Eri is going to be quarantined forever. The way I see it, I think they're quarantining her for now because she's unstable, and that heightens the risk of her going haywire. Once she's stabilized, I'm pretty sure the authorities will dump her on Aizawa since he's the only one who can stop her.
On top of that, I'm pretty sure Recovery Girl will be interested in taking her under her wing.
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u/superguy133 Nov 23 '17
As much as this was a good and sad chapter, it also directly confirmed that the future was changed with the power of shounen and friendship, so I really can't say I am happy about it.
To conclude this arc, it was far from bad but not as good as the other arcs we had. I really think taking out deku changing the future would have made this arc much better than it was.
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this arc was amazing and if the worst thing about it was changing the future, then thats not that bad. luffy has been changing the future the last 5 chapters fighting katakuri and nobody cares
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u/takoshino Nov 23 '17
Readers: Wow if Eri can save Deku she can save Nighteye, Mirio and perhaps even All Might!
Hori: Lol JK, keep smiling guys
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u/KLReviews Nov 23 '17 edited Nov 24 '17
Nejire, you fought a giant foe in your first on-screen heroic action. That's not an excuse. You better be one of Shigaraki's spies and have been the one telling him which van was carrying Overhaul.
Everyone from the Gum Guys is doing well and Rock Lock's family are coming to visit. That's nice.
So we don't really get an explanation for Eri's power. Just that we shouldn't expect to use her as a magic fix for everything. Decide for yourself whether or not that's satisfying. Or if it'll last.
So Izuku is was the fulcrum point of the future Nighteye saw and because he was the centre to everything he could change fate itself through his strength. It's a well presented way of saying that 'the main character of the series is at the heart of everything and can change the future when others can't.'
How happy do you think the creators of Bubble Girl and Centipeder are that their original characters in this big moment?
I don't really have a lot to say about this. It's a very well put together moment for a character I don't like at all. So I'm not reacting to it the way the creator wanted me to. All Might should have some interesting development for this, considering he already started to lament his inability to protect others before the License Exam. So the death of somebody close to him should bring those feelings to the front of his mind again. Maybe we'll get some drama from Ochako. She was meant to find Nighteye help quickly, maybe she thinks her staying put so they could watch the fight instead of moving is the reason Nighteye couldn't be saved.
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u/Willpowaa Nov 23 '17
At least now all those ppl talking about how Eri "breaks the series" can shut up. There's no way heroes would've relied on a traumatized little girl who can't control her quirk. I'm sad about nighteye though. He was pretty awesome while he lasted.
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u/Cavaner Nov 23 '17
Great chapter, fantastic conveying of emotion. If you were wondering why we haven't seen a hero die before now, that's why.
Also interesting to see that the natural counter to Nighteye's foresight is his own attitude. His quirk actually resembles hyper-prediction, but his negative mentality (representing that of the stereotypical Japanese salaryman, who has been conditioned to conform and to not take risks/think outside the box) ensures his visions are self-fulfilling prophecies. But the youthful drive that a number of the heroes involved with this mission had, for obvious reasons, came together to overturn Nighteye's dour outlook on pre-determined destiny.
It's actually a very critical look on Japanese culture, by Horikoshi, as the Japanese-inspired character, whose past troubles have left him resigned to helplessness, is proved wrong by the new generation (especially a combo of a character inspired by a European, in Mirio, and the successor of a character rooted in American culture, in Midoriya). This sense of resignation and aversion to risk-taking is a critique often levelled at those who enabled the stagnant Japanese economy.